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Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model

Started by WattBuilder, September 14, 2009, 03:19:15 AM

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plengo

@WattBuilder,

great work.

I would like to suggest a simple experiment on your existing setup, please. Can you do the same as you have done but this time replace the magnets on the stick with an equivalent non-magnetic material and still use the remote control to flip the new "non-magnetic" component (as you done on the video) and still see if there is a gain on the swing?

If this has been covered on this thread, please forgive my request and continue with this great work.

Fausto.

WattBuilder

Hi Fausto,
Thanks, I’m glad you like the work I’m doing. Yes I did cover the results on past posts, but that’s ok.
When I did that experiment in the past. I use the rock instead of the drive magnet. The YOG with the rock shows the lever going lower and lower to a point. For example 9 cycles to reach a reference point on the large ruler. Then when I attached the drive magnet, the cycles to reached the same point is achieved in 5 and you will also gain in speed and time to reach that point vs using the rock. The energy gain from the magnets are increasing the kinetic and potential energy in the YOG .

I’m sorry I can not do a video at the moment right now as I am trying to get electrical energy readings.

Kind regards,
Howard

exnihiloest

Quote from: WattBuilder on November 02, 2009, 06:51:48 PM
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@exnihiloest,

There’s has been progress since you last posted this……….

I suggest you see the videos first. Then on the one cycle video ask yourself is their a gain from the magnetic array. This will be your foundation for argument with out getting past that point your arguments will have no relevance.

One cycle   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gekDM8vg16k
Gain video  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq5r08eqgsk
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There is definitely no evidence here.
In the first video, you spend work against the magnetic force of the stationary magnet track to put the mobile magnet at its initial position. Then this work is restored by the track accelerating the moving magnet.

In the second video, the remote-controlled rotation of the mobile magnet is not ended when the mobile magnet is moving near the entrance of the track of stationary magnets. It follows that when the mobile magnet enters the magnetic field of the track, to rotate the magnet spends energy to "fight" the opposing field of the track. Then this energy (which was coming from the motor or actuator and has enhanced the magnetic potential of the moving magnet) is restored by the track by accelerating the moving magnet as in the previous case.

I appreciate you efforts and your mechanical assembly, but I'm sorry to tell you that your conclusion about free energy is now simply wrong.
To prove FE, you have to rotate the magnet when it is far outside the magnetic field of the track. Only in this case, you don't need energy to do it. Otherwise your device obeys conventional physics and it is clear that energy is conserved.









WattBuilder

Exnihiloest,
Well, you are incorrect again. Your theory is unsupported as my theories are now backed with test results.

At least now you are trying to listen instead of your previous posts before.

Quote from: exnihiloest on November 07, 2009, 05:10:19 AM
In the first video, you spend work against the magnetic force of the stationary magnet track to put the mobile magnet at its initial position. Then this work is restored by the track accelerating the moving magnet.

No..…… I’m not loading it like a spring. The start position of the drive magnet is too far away from the array field, to make any difference. Remember there is also some resistance entering the array with the drive magnet too.

Hopefully you can figure out that I could of bypass the array to get to the start point. By simply walking over to the other side of the YOG and then install the lever with the drive magnet.


Quote from: exnihiloest on November 07, 2009, 05:10:19 AM
In the second video, the remote-controlled rotation of the mobile magnet is not ended when the mobile magnet is moving near the entrance of the track of stationary magnets.

Yes, The servo is not fast enough due to the energy gain in the YOG, as it gets faster and faster. This actually decreases the available energy gains.
Improving the speed of the servo will only help the YOG collect more energy from the array in the faster swings.

Quote from: exnihiloest on November 07, 2009, 05:10:19 AM
It follows that when the mobile magnet enters the magnetic field of the track, to rotate the magnet spends energy to "fight" the opposing field of the track. Then this energy (which was coming from the motor or actuator and has enhanced the magnetic potential of the moving magnet) is restored by the track by accelerating the moving magnet as in the previous case.

The servo does use energy to rotate 180 degrees, but your forgetting that the energy gains from the magnetic array can be increased beyond the needed energy for the servo. Which can be easily done by changing the array arrangement for better gains or increase the magnetic strength “stronger magnets” as needed. Don’t forget the array length can be increased too.

I suggest you go back to the one cycle video point. Once you have concluded that there is energy gain from the magnetic array. Then with reason you can see that the gain goes somewhere. In this case it’s in the form of kinetic energy in the YOG.

I'm sorry to tell you that my conclusion about free energy is right.


Howard

WattBuilder

@ The World

To help further discussion I am going to give this effect a name.

Definition:

The Yu Effect â€" The effects of applying kinetic energy to a magnetic field resulting in a kinetic energy gain.



Regards,
Howard G. Yu
Inventor of the Yu Oscillating Generator.