Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model

[synchro1]

Howard.
I think you are expecting way much more power out of the YOG than the YOG can deliver. Positioning an output coil directly beneath the base of the Pendulum under a very strong Neo' that rocked overhead, would recover all the output the Yog can deliver. Imagine how much power it would take for that same coil and magnet to pulse the pendulum the additional distance the magnet track sends it. It's not going to amount to very much. Way less then you need to run a turbine stator and recover power. You would have to run the YOG for long periods of time, and store the power just to light a small bulb.   

[tinu]

You de man, Tinu.  There is something about if you do a line integral around any arbitrary closed loop in an unchanging magnetic field - when you get back to where you started your net energy gain is zero.  However, depending on where you are on the loop, you may be sitting in a position of positive or negative magnetic potential energy.  If you travel from Point A to Point B on the loop, you may experience a net energy gain, or a net energy loss - it all depends what part of the loop you are on and in what direction you are travelling.  Pretty magical things those line integrals.  A little bit of calculus applied to the real physical world can go a long way towards enlightenment and understanding of how things work.

Indeed! Isn’t that magical … the language of science is the same all over the word. A couple of equations, few sentences and voila: light for everyone, be it the end-road signal or the start of a great path.
Yet, I’m reluctant of even mentioning line integrals inhere. I mean, there are so many indoctrinated followers that venerate their leaders, leaders that imho are no more than social parasites (although modern ones) and those are the few of them. Most are simply crooks.

Let’s see: how the nasty concept of “line integrals” can be avoided? Hmmm… how about the following?
“They” say that traveling along a magnetic closed loop can result in a net energy gain. Science says it is not so. “They” say science may be wrong or incomplete. Science says it can live with that but it demands irrefutable proofs and it warns that according to everything we know in the present, it is most unlikely being the way “they” wish it to be. Proofs never show up. Gurus of magnetic free-energy say to “them”: “show me the money and keep persevering (fools)”. I suspect the bracket is whispered when counting their money made from movies, DVDs, booklets, plans, magnets, parts, kits, interviews, meetings, seminars, sold advertisements, sponsors, donations, investments, ‘research grants’, per-diems,  etc. etc. etc. 

Now, having the picture portrayed, I have no problems assuming that one of “them” is building a device that generates energy by moving an ultra-special part of a rotor (made of magnavorite, of course) around a closed loop, in a unchanging magnetic field. Great! Hurray!!! Magnetic free energy has been finally obtained!!! But wait a second: a humble electron moving along the same closed path feels his energy is growing. He then feels energetic an independent; he decides to leave the atom. Oh, no: a second electron sees the first one and he leaves too. What?!  Protons syndicate goes on strike?! Protons leave the nucleus? Huh?  There is no nucleus anymore. And… and…where is the inventor?!!! Oh, I see: he’s somewhere around! 
Hopefully that piece of magnavorite affects the universe (I mean the ‘damn line integral’ value) just locally, otherwise it would be no universe any longer.

What do you think MileHigh?
I admit it’s a much longer explanation but can it be a good substitute for when and where the original does not work?

Thanks for your post,
Best regards
Tinu

[exnihiloest]

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@Exnihiloest,

It’s not a question of faith when reasoning is involved.

Surely you read neither Thomas d'Aquin nor Augustin.
You never read the "proofs" of creationists.
"Reasoning" is also used in all religions and sects. A false reasoning is yet a reasoning.

Changing the design to prove it doesn’t work is not grounds for argument. You just proving your way is wrong.

Howard

Your reply is not even a reasoning. Where is science?
My purpose was just a suggestion because you presented no evidence.
If you have other means to prove your claim of overunity, you are free to use and show them. Until now and for the reasons I have already mentionned, the evidence is that you have nothing, like hundreds of PMM builders who claimed for 20 years the same not working things as you.

This explains why you did not quote the part where I said that you have to rotate the mobile magnet outside of the magnetic field of the track otherwise you do work against the magnetic field and it is this energy from the motor that is then recovered and leads to the acceleration of the magnet. It is clear you are not comfortable about science and technical arguments.

[Asymatrix]

Perhaps it would be possible to position some sort of spring or rubber bumper at the end of the cycle to give it an extra kick. It might not be beneficial, as the arm moves relatively slowly, but if that could be utilized, the momentum might build on itself with each rotation.

[markdansie]

I just popped in and saw this thread still going. I thought it would be finished already given the number of well respected and qualified members of this forum who have reached a concensus there is nothing here.
However, I do see we have some Johny come latelies who feel words can out smart science.
PS Teslaalnet, you never answered my questions re you past experience, qualifications and who you are. I was so kind to give you lengthy details to your questions and even had some members back up my claims with their experience with me. (when you were trying to shoot me down)
Just being silent doesn't help.
The forum is a place where everyone is welcome. I always pronounce my lack of expertise in areas where I am not qualified and listed to those who do. However no ammount of wistful thinking or delusional arguments will make something come true.
So hoping to hear from you soon
Kind Regards
Mark