No Electric Cars For A Long Time To Come!!

[Lunkster]

How things change with time.  I bought a Chevy Bolt 2 years ago.  Work has charging stations and I have never paid more than $5 to charge the 60 kilowatt battery at work.  During the summer, and driving the back roads to work, I have gotten as much as 300 miles in range for a 228 mile range car.  With any new technologies, the prices are higher to begin with but come down over the years.  This is the way the research is paid for in developing those technologies.  So the more people purchase electric vehicles, the sooner more vehicles and the infrastructure to support them will come.  With the discounts, zero interest rate and tax rebates we got when purchasing the car, it really was not that bad of a deal. 

The newbee Lunkster

[lancaIV]

Just for fun it would be nice to prototype an 1 eWatth/Km electric vehicle ,for a .4-5 passengers and b. 20 passengers electric cityshuttle !

Wolfgang Volkrodt : 100 Watt rated e-motor for ebikes as assistant enough
                                    100 W  Aminzko electric motor + static magnetic generator
                                    Calculation : ≤ 1 Wh/Km , 10-15 Km-h average

C5 Sinclair : 300 Watt rated e-vehicle
                      Li Yng Tyan gear transmission + Trilles static amplifier

                     Calculation : ≤ 1Wh / Km ,25 Km-h average

Youtube,Indonesia : ic engine bike to 750 Watt ebike conversion

                                750 Watt Aminzko motor + static magnetic amplifier
                                Calculation : ≤ 1 Wh/Km ,40 Km-h average


When the Munich citybus from the M.A.N. company 1988 before needed a 200 hp diesel engine and after hybrid conversion : 'Magnet Motor'/Starnberg  company Flywheel +20 hp diesel engine ,this engine could be changed with a Michel Porquer 4 x 500 Watt electric motor transmission ,this 4 electric motor Aminzko type , loaded by a static magnetic amplifier !

ecityshuttle consume : 1 Wh/Km , 50 Km-h average

When the german low resistance car prototype called "Loremo " should become equipped with a 20 hp gasoil engine and the Michel Porquer 4x500 Watt transmission drive equates  50 hp gasoline engine then this is well enough as eLoremo drive system,with Aminzko motors and static magnetic amplifier !

Calculation : ≤ 1 Wh/Km ,50 Km-h average (120 Km-h street legal max. )


And probably later : the from the pioneers Plauson-T.T.Brown-N.Tesla modernized electric drive modell with capacitive circuit.
Net Zero ( solar tect,blades)  and Zero Energy electric car development

[onepower]

Oh dear, more fake news.

First, almost every major automaker either has electric vehicles or has them in development. Second, almost every major automaker has said within 20 years they won't even offer a fossil fueled vehicle, everything will be electric.

So this electric vehicles aren't popular or usable nonsense is just more nonsense.

Myself I have been looking at the Hyundai Kona electric SUV. In fact electric vehicles are almost comparable to there counterparts in price and 415 km range is fine for most trips. As well, I can charge it from my own solar while others are completely dependent on others for fuel. I could also use the battery as backup power for my house. That's real independence and electric is the future.

Regards

[lancaIV]

Oh dear, more fake news.

First, almost every major automaker either has electric vehicles or has them in development. Second, almost every major automaker has said within 20 years they won't even offer a fossil fueled vehicle, everything will be electric.

So this electric vehicles aren't popular or usable nonsense is just more nonsense.

Myself I have been looking at the Hyundai Kona electric SUV. In fact electric vehicles are almost comparable to there counterparts in price and 415 km range is fine for most trips. As well, I can charge it from my own solar while others are completely dependent on others for fuel. I could also use the battery as backup power for my house. That's real independence and electric is the future.

Regards

onepower,up to #reply 4 all postes anno 2009 !

[lancaIV]

Observing the commercial market we see :
as small sub-/urban electric car the eTwingo ( equipped with ZOE e-motors )
Why 60 KW rated ,these translated to Nm ,when more/less these Nm are more 12-15 KW edrive equivalent ?
Comparison with the by Victor Arestov,ASPP, promoted double winding motors !


When the gasoline  ic engine from the conventional Twingo III   is rated with 80 KW ~ 107 hp this compares by austinev.org ic engine/electric drive
conversion factor  (12,5/136)~ 0,092   

  107 hp combustion engine Nm peak  x 0,092~ 9,85 KW  electric motor rating

In theoretical physics 1 horse power translates with 745,7 Watts,but never by combustion engine average/peak and elctric motor average/peak rating comparisons !
And there are young and old horses ! Different values in Watt average and peak !

By given values and calculation the 50 hp ic engine comparison from the Michel Porquer application FR2792258"Moteur differentiel" equates 50 hp x 0,092 ~ 4,6 KW electric drive ,so we can assume

4 x 500 W e-motors / 4,6 KW = 56,5% savings

John Keyes ic engine  flywheel system : savings 75%
Ralf Walge ic engine  flywheel system : 65% savings