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Overunity Machines Forum



Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.

Started by Zeremor, March 08, 2006, 11:42:32 PM

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berferd

Quote from: Omnibus on March 15, 2006, 08:54:31 PM
We may then carry out a second cycle (lift the ball from initial position manually? -> place it at the input of the device -> magnetic field raises spontaneously the ball up the ramp -> spontaneous fall from end of ramp -> initial position underneath the device).

We can then carry out the cycle a third time ...

and so on ...

Every time (after every cycle) the ball always falls back underneath the device where, recall, its initial position is. This initial position of the ball after every cycle is entirely equivalent to its initial position after any cycle.

The beauty of the whole thing is that when the ball gets back to its initial position (always one and the same) after every cycle we are given a ?present?, a portion of energy for which we have spent no work, we have paid nothing.

So, am I understanding this right?  You manually place the ball in the "input to the device", release it, and it winds up in the "initial position", stopping after a single cycle.  To get it to go again, you need to manually pick up the ball from the "initial position" and place it in the "input to the device", and release it?



Omnibus

QuoteSo, am I understanding this right?  You manually place the ball in the "input to the device", release it, and it winds up in the "initial position", stopping after a single cycle.  To get it to go again, you need to manually pick up the ball from the "initial position" and place it in the "input to the device", and release it?

Correct. This allows you to get excess energy periodically.

tjanzer

I remember way back when I was just a kid, I used to do the same thing with my Hot Wheels cars. I would set up the track in a "U" shape, raise one side about 4" and let the car go. The SMOT is a great learning device, making balls roll uphill is pretty cool, but it is usless in the real world (as far as I can see right now).

Plus, just think about it. You are moving an item from point "A" to point "B" which in respect is close to point "A". Why fight gravity? Just use it like the hot wheels track??   :D

Omnibus

QuoteI remember way back when I was just a kid, I used to do the same thing with my Hot Wheels cars. I would set up the track in a "U" shape, raise one side about 4" and let the car go. The SMOT is a great learning device, making balls roll uphill is pretty cool, but it is usless in the real world (as far as I can see right now).

Quite the contrary. SMOT is very useful to the real world. It produces periodically excess energy. Producing energy without paying for it is quite useful to the real world.

QuotePlus, just think about it. You are moving an item from point "A" to point "B" which in respect is close to point "A". Why fight gravity? Just use it like the hot wheels track??

Not clear what you mean ...

berferd

Quote from: Omnibus on March 16, 2006, 12:16:44 PM
QuoteSo, am I understanding this right?? You manually place the ball in the "input to the device", release it, and it winds up in the "initial position", stopping after a single cycle.? To get it to go again, you need to manually pick up the ball from the "initial position" and place it in the "input to the device", and release it?

Correct. This allows you to get excess energy periodically.

So, to get the device to execute each cycle, it is necessary for you to pick up the ball from the "initial position", and move it to the "input to the device". (Personally, I would call these "initial position" and "final position", respectively.  But we'll stick with your nomenclature.)

After the ball stops at the end of the cycle (in the "initial position") , is there any magnetic force acting upon it?

When you place the ball in the "input to the device" and before you let go of it, is there any magnetic force acting upon it?

When you move the ball from the "initial position" to the "input to the device", are you moving the ball from one physical location to another?  (i.e. are the "initial position" and the "input to the device" separated in space by any distance, or are they precisely the same location?)