Pauls Device; a damn shame he regrets revealing it.

[berferd]

It's not going to make it to the market because it doesn't work.? Yes, free energy devices have been around since the 1900's and not one has made it to the market.? But it's not because they're being suppressed.? It's because they don't work.? They are fantasy.? Sure, Sprain's motor is a real device.? But it sure as heck doesn't put out more energy than it consumes.? The universe won't let that happen.

You do not understand the nature of the zero point field. Learn some quantum physics if you
want to understand the nuts and bolts. We are not dealing with the law of conservation of
energy as applied to bunsen burners heating flasks of water in chemistry labs. It is said that
there is enough energy in an empty bucket to boil the Atlantic ocean dry.

Sprain's device has nothing to do with "the zero point field".  It's just an arrangement of permanent magnets and an electromagnet.

The claim for this device is that the mechanical energy output exceeds the electrical energy input.  One need not understand how the device works or where any excess energy is coming from to apply conventional thermodynamics to evaluate "overunity or not overunity".  The quality and detail of the input and output measurements don't even begin to support the claims of overunity.

I don't understand this rabid need to believe.  Virtually every guy with a claimed perpetual motion machine is greeted with enthusiastic congratulations and dozens of people working to replicate it.  But then he fades into the background and nobody is ever quite able to replicate his claims.  Every single time.  Sprain is no different.

[Omnibus]

How about Wesley Snyder's device? Is the effect of spinning the rotor without energy input real or not?

[FredWalter]

He shared so much information in good faith, so much so that ppl could almost have replicated it.

The key word in your sentence is "almost". I read his patent. He doesn't give enough information there to replicate his device, without a lot of expensive and time-consuming experimentation.

[Omnibus]

The key word in your sentence is "almost". I read his patent. He doesn't give enough information there to replicate his device, without a lot of expensive and time-consuming experimentation.

I agree with regard to Paul Sprain. The jury is still out concerning his claims. Something much more interesting happened recently, however. Wesley Snyder demonstrated in a video the functioning of a self-sustaining device. Is Wesley Snyder showing a real effect or not in his video?

[terry1094]

berferd wrote:

"Sprain's device has nothing to do with "the zero point field".? It's just an arrangement of permanent magnets and an electromagnet."

Then what maintains the electron's magnetic spin moment?

Terry