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Overunity Machines Forum



another way to fight lorentz

Started by mr_bojangles, November 07, 2009, 12:59:59 PM

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should i move this into a different section and if so what should it be considered?

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lumen

I believe that 5 equal gears would provide a better solution. You just keep the center gear stationary and the outer ones rotate around it.
This will keep the outer gears stationary and is able to drive at any speed!


lumen

I was thinking of something that may first prove if any homo-polar generator works in the manner that everyone believes and that it is in fact possible to achieve any OU effects.

This is a concept that should prove the theory or show otherwise.

The Homo-polar HHO generator!

 

winsonali

this could be good knowledge base for those interested in HPG

HPG (homo polar generator) , unlike all other dynamos, this machine cannot be analysed using Faraday's own law of electromagnetic induction. This law (in its modern form) states that an electric current is induced in a closed electrical circuit when the magnetic flux enclosed by the circuit changes (in either magnitude or direction). However, the circuit in the Faraday disc is parallel to the magnetic field vector and therefore encloses no magnetic flux. Therefore, Faraday's law does not apply to this machine.

mr_bojangles

the whole point of this is the fact that this is lenz-less rotation

if you took any generator and could cancel out counter torque, almost every time it would become a PMM

the faster this mechanism is spun, the less energy it will take to maintain speed due to the flywheel effect

every revolution still translates to 360 degrees of rotation of the magnet compared to the stator

and it adds 360 degrees for every extra disc/magnet we add, which can be balanced out

the bottom line being, this is lenz-less rotation

no matter how strong, fast, heavy, how many, or how much electricity the magnets induce, it takes the exact same amount of energy every time to spin this machine, and because it is balanced, all we have to account for is the friction of the main axle itself, momentum will render the weight nearly invisible, and all we are left with is, well, free energy without any back torque what-so-ever

@lumen

i like the idea, i would be worried about counter torque because they are free to move and we would be directly spinning them from the axle, and might fight the rotation of the gears (meaning we have to account for lenz law)

ironically my device would not use any gears, when i built the concept model i used gears because they were perfect circles and already had holes in the middle, and i already had axles that fit them.

@winsonali

this machine doesn't have to be an HPG, and most likely won't be, but i appreciate your input on HPG's in general

"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it." 
-WC Fields

winsonali

Nikolas tesla how he develop HPG

Nikola Tesla was interested in the Faraday disc and conducted work with homopolar generators.[2] He eventually patented an improved version of the device and his U.S. Patent 406,968 ("Dynamo Electric Machine") describes an arrangement of two parallel discs on separate, parallel axles, and joined like pulleys by a metallic belt. This would have greatly reduced the frictional losses caused by sliding contacts by allowing both electrical pickups to interface with the shafts of the two disks rather than at the shaft and a high-speed rim.

Lorentz force equation it self has number of discrepancies velocity of charge particle where in his equation he has used  both velocity and E( volts per meter)  where as velocity of a charge particle require a reference which is not present over here
and yet man kind is still unaware of the speed of magnetic lines

any way the reason for force required to move the fly wheel in magnetic field is due to the fact that the direction of wheel conductor is perpendicular to the magnetic filed if you turn the wheel in parallel to magnetic field, it will move freely but will not produce current as well
when ever a charge move in a conductor it creates its field and due to this field, forces like magnetic and electromagnetic starts reacting with each other and as a result the entire magnetic field acts as a invisible brake

magnet is just like a energy bank if you borrow energy from it, it will cost you work and if you give energy to it it will work for you.