another way to fight lorentz

[gravityblock]

I was thinking of something that may first prove if any homo-polar generator works in the manner that everyone believes and that it is in fact possible to achieve any OU effects.

This is a concept that should prove the theory or show otherwise.

The Homo-polar HHO generator!

The Homo-polar HHO generator will create an electric field only without a current.  The external circuit in a HPG has an electric field also that is opposite in direction or polarity to the disc.  This allows current to flow.

When you're dealing with more than one disc and more than one magnet, then the electric fields of the discs can be arranged where they are opposite in direction or polarity to allow current to flow without having relative motion between the disc or external circuit (This is the key point that everyone misses with the HPG).  It also has the affects of connecting the discs in series, which will increase the voltage.

[winsonali]

mr_bojangles:

you are  thinking in right direction and i wish you best of luck in your work
actually you have understood the key problem ( eliminating the Lorentz force)
over coming this you get good energy source.

have a look on this video he is also thinking as we are thinking


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etFCzIe-D2Y&feature=related

HPO are very successful generators producing low voltages but very high currents.

[gravityblock]

I reversed the roles of the magnet and discs.  In the original setup, there was relative motion between the disc and magnet, but no relative motion between the disc and the magnetic field, thus the disc won't cut the field.  The discs will now rotate, while the magnets remain stationary relative to the discs and the discs will cut through the magnetic field.

Here's a drawing on how to keep the magnets upright without the weights.   

A) Axle  B) Discs  C) Slip ring  D) Wall  E) Frame  F) Anchored to Wall for illustration purposes only.

[winsonali]

gravityblock:

this is quite workable model in this way its not a HPG but its a high efficiency generator where you will use momentum and mechanical advantage with reacting forces
good thinking
   

[lumen]

When you're dealing with more than one disc and more than one magnet, then the electric fields of the discs can be arranged where they are opposite in direction or polarity to allow current to flow without having relative motion between the disc or external circuit.

Yes, but actually that cannot be done because in order to NOT have an external circuit, it must also rotate with the disk.
If it rotates with the disk, then it cannot cut any lines of force that the disk cut or it will cancel the current generated in the disk.

Think of the device with the salt water , would it work if there were fins inside that held the water still while the rest rotated? Yes! because the water would now be the external conductor.

Would it work if the just the water rotated? Yes, because the disk is now the external conductor.