Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor

[cchance]

personally i have to agree tearing a working 96watt system apart was not logical, a 96 watt gravity wheel thats shown and proven is very expandable, hell tie 6 of them together and you have ~600watts of power (gear them to a central shaft perhaps)  that way its getting wider the generator and not a larger diameter. hell a 48" diameter box thats 5ft long sounds generator quality to me hehe.

"I'm sure that there are lots of money out there, but where is it when it is needed. Seems like nobody wants to trust anyone. "

With good reason, just look into the past as you've seen theirs thousands of faked and unreproduceable devices that claimed what you say your device does.

No i'm not being negative or saying that yours doesnt do what u say but the fact is without reproductions theirs no way to get backers or people interested in it let alone to invest money in a project. If you want to move forward with things and your financially tight get out the paperwork and put out a call to some builders, hell i'd sign a NDA and a contract acknoleging your creation of the work and not to take credit for it. And i'm sure others would be willing to as well, get them to confirm it and reproduce it and fund it themselves. Then you get the credit for the work, and you have credible reproductions without having to foot out money or strugle to find investors.

People dont want something for nothing, but people arent willing to invest in things that arent proven to be reproduceable or extremely well documented.

[FredWalter]

I may take it to my grave, simply because nobody is willing to give a helping hand.

You are right, people aren't willing to give you money as investors, based on just your say-so. There are a lot of inventors, all asking for money, and it's hard to tell who really has something, and who doesn't.

HOWEVER, there are people willing to try to reproduce your devices, to prove that your device works. This would help convince the skeptics with money to invest that you really do have something.

AND, there are people willing to help document how to reproduce your device. This would help with the people reproducing your devices.

There are people willing to help test your devices.

There are people willing to pay money for plans on how to make your devices.

[Ergo]

Hi, Im not so sure anymore that Jack's so called overunity
machines are for real. I've been reading all the posts of
Jack at this forum and also at Emwiki, Peswiki and Keelynet.
When you line up and compaire all of his claims then it's obvious
that he is very inconsistent when repporting about his progress.
This makes me think that his methods of measurement is totaly
flawd. Or perhaps he's just a mythomaniac....

Anyway. If I had an invention like the overunity motor I would
of course test it as a self running motor generator ASAP just to
make sure that I got overunity. This is the only test that really
proves that the motor is overunity for sure.
C'mon.. He has used a prony brake to test it. Give me a brake!!!

He is saying that he doubles the flux lines by his technique, and
yes, that is true, no doubt about it, but no material known to man
can sustain 3 Teslas without saturation and this is where mother
nature makes sure that the laws of thermodynamics is kept intact.

Among these facts it's the inconsistency part that really troubles me.

Inconsistency facts:
Some times the gravity wheel is 24" dia, othertimes it is 48".
Suddenly he tears the gravity wheel apart...very strange behavior.
In his early motor reports, he's getting 120 - 200% efficiency, that's OK.
Later he tell us that he's got 400% at lower RPM - that's OK.
Now he says that you really need 2x2 inch magnets to get overunity!!??
What the hell..... In the beginning he just built the motors using small
1x1 inch magnets and they were reported having exceptional efficiency.
Now, there's something fishy about the inconsistency of these claims.

There's more facts that is totaly strange, but you have to read about
it for yourself in his posts.

Jack, no offence but perhaps you feel like explaning these facts.

[FredWalter]

Im not so sure anymore that Jack's so called overunity machines are for real.

I've seen photos online that include Jack and one of his motors, so the motors are real.

I've been reading all the posts of Jack at this forum and also at Emwiki, Peswiki and Keelynet.

What is the URL for Emwiki?

He has used a prony brake to test it.

It is possible to have overunity, without having enough overunity to drive a generator and produce a self-runner. There are losses involved when you generate electricity using a generator.

Even *slightly* overunity is useful, say in a motor driving an electric car, if the additional cost of the motor is outweighed by the cost of the batteries that you don't have to use.

[dingbat]

I have only one thing to say currently.   Everybody is bitching about high gas , high energy, high heating, high everything, however no body is will to put a few bucks out to help the situation.

If I can come and take measurements on your motor(s), and my measurements validate your claims, I will help you complete your projects.