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Overunity Machines Forum



Hilden-Brand Magnet Motor

Started by JackH, March 10, 2006, 11:58:55 PM

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PaulLowrance

Hi kingrs,

I don't know how I could have possibly missed your post.  I want to congratulate you on IMHO choosing one of the best possible designs for "free energy," the MEG.

Naudin has successfully replicated the MEG. See ->

http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/megv21.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/megv2.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/megv1.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm

I have some very important tips if you are going to verify Naudin's results ->

1. Please use the Metglass core.

That's it, lol!  If you follow Naudin's exact Metglas MEG design then you should succeed. I believe it is very difficult, if next to impossible to succeed with the iron core MEG design. I can point out direct errors in Naudin's scope interpretations regarding the power output of his silicon gain size iron core MEG designs. Although, it is very clear that Naudin's Metglas version generates free energy after studying in great detail his scope pictures. The current and voltage scope pictures do not lie!  Please see my wiki project for some more details what exactly is happening, unless I have made a mistake in my conventional science.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:MEMM

It is important that you follow Naudin's designs exactly, even the way he winds his coils, if possible. It is important that you arrive at the same distribute capacitance in Naudin's copper windings, etc.

Here's some more info why you need a core such as the Metaglass Naudin later used.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1565.msg13531/topicseen.html#msg13531


Kind regards,
Paul Lowrance

MeggerMan

Hi Paul,
Yes, I was wondering when someone was going to comment on the simulation I did nearly 4 weeks ago.
I can get hold of the metaglass coated silicon steel as we use the stuff at work to build large transformers weighting hundreds of tonnes.
I have been promised some off-cuts that I can use for this project.
I notice that Jean-Louise Naudin has curved the strips to form the two U shapes. Very clever idea.
All that is needed then is to cut/grind the two mating surfaces.
He says he managed over-unity yet he could not close the loop, surely he should still be working on this if it looks so promising, as this was 6 years ago.

You mentioned in your wiki page about switching frequency in the UHF range, I would have thought that a frequency over a couple of hundred hertz would exceed the switching speed of the silicon steel but you may be able to put me right on that.


Regards

Rob

JackH


PaulLowrance

That sounds like great news JackH!

Regards,
Paul Lowrance

PaulLowrance

Hi kingrs,

Are you sure Metglass is made of silicon steel?  I think this is the core Naudin used:

Meglas POWERLITE? C-Cores
http://www.metglas.com/products/page5_1_6_2_1.asp

These cores are tape wound so it would be bad idea to cut them as that would electrically short that part. Are you referring to the rounded edges? They might already come rounded, but not sure. From the picture at the above site it looks kind rounded.

If you scroll down on Naudin's web page he shows a pic of his Metglas powerlite:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/megv21.htm

I'm not sure why Naudin stopped working on the MEG. I think he simply gave up on trying to close the loop and was getting nowhere.

The UHF range mentioned on my wiki are as you suspect, almost entirely absorbed by the core material. Cores are usually very resistive at those frequencies, but we must note this is an entirely different case because the entire radiation is caused within the core, not outside. I've ran electromagnetic simulations and found to no surprise that when the electron flips occur magnetic field is shorted. You can also see this in FEMM. A way of seeing this on a macro scale is to take a PM and short it out with say iron so the magnetic lines for the most part do not escape. Now imagine the same PM except completely submersed in iron. In short, the radiation caused within the core is shorted out and easily absorbed. The electromagnetic simulation program I used demonstrated that the higher the permeability the less radiation escapes. This is akin to light trying to escape a denser medium; i.e., it just internally reflects. Also there are other reasons why nearly all the radiation is absorbed.

The UHF frequencies caused by electron flips in magnetic materials is pretty well documented. IBM has dealt with them for decades. MEMM uses numerous techniques of extracting these ultra high frequencies. Although in materials such as Metglas and Iron the MCE radiation is typically a lot lower.

Regards,
Paul Lowrance