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Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits

Started by Pirate88179, November 21, 2009, 02:06:51 PM

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innovation_station

here is another design .. 

real easy ...

make a aircore jt on a thick wire...  this can have an idependent supply from a aa  then i need a ubc
and u charge it from the jt ... simple then you drain the ubc while it is rechargeing from the jt ...  and the air core jt squeezes the ubc on its way out ... orrr   i can take the fly back from the jt and power a free PUSH COIL ...  hummmmmmm

To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

Pirate88179

Al:

I would consider Jeanna's coil for this maybe? (The same as the Jeanna's Light circuit)  At almost 1,500 volts the charge cycle would not take long at all on the b-cap.

Now this is what I have learned with mine so far.  At first, you think you can't feed 1,500 volts into the little 2.7 b-cap and in reality, maybe that is a bit too high, but you can send in a very large voltage signal from a JT that the b-caps "converts" for lack of a better term, into power/voltage via capacitance formulas.

So even though the 1,500 volts input has very little amperage, when that b-cap gets to 2.7 volts and cuts off the input signal, you will have a full cap.  I think this would happen very quickly too.

Anyway, my two cents.  There are other very good JT's out there with much lower outputs and they may be better for this application, I don't know for sure.  But, Godspeed on this project Al, I feel confident that something very good will come of this.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

stprue

Here is a good and simple design

I think 250 @26guage Primary

15 by 3 BC coils

These are approximate!  Good Voltage and easy design.

gadgetmall

Quote from: Pirate88179 on December 06, 2009, 05:41:19 PM
Al:

I would consider Jeanna's coil for this maybe? (The same as the Jeanna's Light circuit)  At almost 1,500 volts the charge cycle would not take long at all on the b-cap.

Now this is what I have learned with mine so far.  At first, you think you can't feed 1,500 volts into the little 2.7 b-cap and in reality, maybe that is a bit too high, but you can send in a very large voltage signal from a JT that the b-caps "converts" for lack of a better term, into power/voltage via capacitance formulas.

So even though the 1,500 volts input has very little amperage, when that b-cap gets to 2.7 volts and cuts off the input signal, you will have a full cap.  I think this would happen very quickly too.

Anyway, my two cents.  There are other very good JT's out there with much lower outputs and they may be better for this application, I don't know for sure.  But, Godspeed on this project Al, I feel confident that something very good will come of this.

Bill
Bill i also ordered 4 samples from them the same time you did . I expect them in by next week . This is why i ask other to help with there date as explained . I don't have time as i am building the Ou conrtroller and getting ready for Asia's Christmas . I don't see a problem running 1500 volts into a 2.5 volt 2.7 farad cap as long as you can ,measure the current and monitor the volts . By the time you short that 1500volts with an bcap it will be nill .test this by putting a one ohm resistor on that output and you will see what i mean .  My standard secondary unloaded and rectified produced 75 volts but it will not charge the bcap ! so i suspect current it the main component in my charging off the transistor .
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innovation_station

ok here is another simple design

i will string  many jt 1" on 1 coper loop all the fly back from all the jt's ....  fly out through the loop to the CHARGEING BCAP..

simple basic ... bla bla ...

ist ...

as i recall i never had a problem with my secondaries  to charge most ANY CAP ... i have never held a ubc yet i can only imagine they will charge faster ...

ok so i have 30 1" gold mines ... ill just wind 11 turns bifillar on each ...  as a normal jt  no resistor .. or with a resistor honestly i dont care ...  i have 100 pots i was gonna use on the grow lights and such ... but  basically 30 bridges 30 2n 22222a hook em all up as 1 .. let them run  and pulse them ...   out put from all combine into the b cap ...

i will sell some some of my ring designs ...  if anyone cant built them and wants a unit ... let me know ...  you buy the materials .. and i build it its just that simple ... 

none the less many things work on teslas work ... lol   many things ... 

anyhow first thing i built when i started out was my TURBINE ...   and the n machine design ...  lol

over unity ... ?   i guess so ....   

william
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!