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Overunity Machines Forum



Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits

Started by Pirate88179, November 21, 2009, 02:06:51 PM

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Mk1

@all

First thank you Albert for the heater , and those great cap , i know from the beginning that the jt with a secondary was making so much energy that there was about no way to catch it all ...

ps . once you learned about DR. Stifler maybe the could be a way to tune a bunch of antenna coil to the toroid and get even more , wireless power ?



Ok , every one here we take the second step in the jt development .

First we have seen led light then cfl even Bill's four footer , gadget's Tv disruptor , Gary the man that like to walk a different path , Jonny and Lidmotor have made great motor not unlike the old jt , Etc ...

I have to say i forget some , but that is a indication of how much we have done in a short year , Congrats everyone !


Now the Second Stage Joule Thief , Aka SSJT , will be for going beyond that , A second stage could mean many things ...

Its all about ideas .

I have some my self, i will fully explain .

I also believe the is better toroid then the one from goldmine , i wish we could measure those i go one that is way above all the others , lets just say one that one the led make a high pitch noise , and i burned a set of 5 X 5 watt luxon led in parallel from 22 turns secondary ...

Some ideas , please everyone fell free to make them known .


First , How about simply making a second jt work from the first one , running slower then the first one giving us time to charge cap to run the second at slower speed .

Second , we should take advantage of the high voltage from the Flyback jt
to explore the tesla hair pin circuit , and spark gap , after all this is a static charge , it should be possible to charge a plate to the opposite of the surrounding static environment to develop greater charges.

I believe it could also , fly a Lifter .

But now please , Its time to speak , in the Jt tread , like any idea , nothing is to crazy other wise it would not be so fun .

I fell that the jt treat could address the basic mod we make to the jt , and still post to help new people to join in the fun .
But now the attention has been cultivated and starting on page one is less dissuasive for interested people .

Sorry again , for my English (French Dude)...


Mark   

PaulLowrance

Gadget,

Can you take a look at this circuit. I must have something wrong, probably with the toroid primary or secondary connections,

http://globalfreeenergy.info/imgs/gadgetmall-circuit.gif

The 2 dots by L1 & L2 mean they are on the same core. L2 has twice the windings, and hence 4 times the inductance. I had no idea how much inductance, so took a guess, but that's not the issue right now. The issue is that I don't fully get the connections on your toroid in your drawing.

Thanks,
Paul

Mk1

@Paul


That is a basic Jt , with some mod by Gadget , it doesn't show any secondary...

Just put one on the toroid anyway , gadget mod will help you in running the jt in resonance , and adjusting it so.

Mark

gadgetmall

Quote from: broli on November 21, 2009, 03:09:37 PM
This all seems very cool. I have little to no experience with JT's.

How fast is the boost cap fully charged? And how did you check the 3500amps? Or did you discharge it through a conventional load?
The cap took approximately 14 hours to charge with a Standard Jt . the 3500 amps is the Specs. for a Maxwell Boostcap . And yes i said all along this thing burns lamp cord into but only a few days ago i decide to try Ni chrome wire from a burnt out heater . I discharged 4 1/2 minutes from 2.6 down to to a voltage of 1 volt for an experiment 2 .During that time the coil of Ni Chrome lit up brightly and i even lit a cigarette with it :) It was very very hot and i could feel the heat several feet away . All the details are available from the experiments in the last 10 pages or so of Jule thief thread for you to replicate . SUPERCAPS are not ULTRACAPS paul .

@Mk1 . I would like to know if you have a source for that toroid .  I have several large toroids and one that IST has the BIG 140mm ring in route plus some 3.3/4  inch GRAY toroids . I also have some black 2 inch as well . I guess we can start by you describing your specific winding on your device the LED blower ?

Gadget

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Mk1

@gadget

Its the green gem , the very first one , i guess you remember , it  came from a dvd player i think...

We really need to find a way to test those.

Mark