Joule Thief 101

[MileHigh]

Over the years you have provided a lot of words, and occasionally a few pictures or drawings to go along with them. Whether those words and pics can be considered informative explanations or not is purely subjective opinion.
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[MileHigh]

Not really MH,, and what do the implications of that mean??

Your questions were answered,, correctly,, but you failed to grasp the answers,, and now you throw out this duff package of junk?

The implications are that MH does not have a full understanding of resonance, only his myopic view.

I already figured that the "answers" would be useless,, it is nice being right from time to time

Your posting is a lie and it is gratuitous nonsense.  It's your posting that is useless.  The questions were never answered correctly by anyone.  You are selling out your soul to dumb-ass peer pressure.  You are scared.

You are a drone in the Anti-Knowledge League, George Orwell would be proud of you.

[MileHigh]

Er-no.
The wine glass will not resonate at all unless it receive's energy from another source.

Er-wrong again.
Some of the energy is dissipated as compression waves--  sound waves MH.

Already included this bit in one of my explanations--which of course you said was wrong.
Quote post 1696-It resonates due to the deformation and reformation  of the wine glass from it's rest shape,

Nope-im afraid not. Some of the energy is dissipated as compression waves(sound waves),and some is dissipated as vibration through the table or platform the wine glass is sitting on.

So you say the resonant frequency is determined by-effective moving mass,and stiffness of the glass.To you this is correct.
I say (post 1696)-The resonant frequency of a wine glass is determined by the shape,size,and structure of the glass,where you effective moving mass !is! the shape and size,and your !stiffness! is determined by the structure of the glass/crystal that the wine glass is made from;

Lol
MH-you really are a comedian some time's

It was a good laugh-if nothing else.

Brad

In the quoted posting above, you make yourself look like a fool with scrambled brains.  It's enough to make a grown man cry.

Er-no.  The wine glass will not resonate at all unless it receive's energy from another source.

There is nothing in the question about the wine glass receiving energy.  Is this a failure on your part to think?

Er-wrong again.  Some of the energy is dissipated as compression waves--  sound waves MH.

Er-wrong again my ass.  The question does not ask about energy dissipation, it just asks how the wine glass resonates.  Don't you dare get into one of your insane "car on a hill" arguments.  It's yet another failure on your part to think.

Already included this bit in one of my explanations--which of course you said was wrong.
Quote post 1696-It resonates due to the deformation and reformation  of the wine glass from it's rest shape,

You never answered the two questions completely and properly.

Nope-im afraid not. Some of the energy is dissipated as compression waves(sound waves),and some is dissipated as vibration through the table or platform the wine glass is sitting on.

No, I'm afraid SO.  You are stepping outside the bounds of the question again.  It's nonsensical idiocy like that that would get you sliced to pieces in no time on a serious electronics or physics forum.  They would think you were nuts.

So you say the resonant frequency is determined by-effective moving mass,and stiffness of the glass.To you this is correct.
I say (post 1696)-The resonant frequency of a wine glass is determined by the shape,size,and structure of the glass,where you effective moving mass !is! the shape and size,and your !stiffness! is determined by the structure of the glass/crystal that the wine glass is made from;

But you don't actually say the correct thing in your answer, you are just re-spinning your words in an attempt to make them fit.  I don't give a rat's ass if "the structure of the glass/crystal that the wine glass is made from" will determine the stiffness.  You did not say stiffness and it was never in your mind.  Stop the BS.

You completely failed to answer the two questions, mister "resonance researcher."  You were all pumped up with attitude at the beginning of this thread about resonance and as it turned out your puffed up chest was a fake because you could not articulate how a wine glass resonates, or how its resonant frequency is determined.

MH-you really are a comedian some time's

Based on what we have seen, you would be the laughing stock on any serious electronics forum.  The Tinman is only cool when he is in his cocoon on this forum.  You would be eaten alive elsewhere.  That's the harsh truth.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

Unfortunately Chet,MH got that wrong as well,as not all the energy is stored as he states. If it was all stored and then returned,and then all stored again,the wine glass would resonate all day without any input energy.

All of what he said(other that his !all energy stored statement!,has already been stated by other members here. MH has just worded it differently.

I will repeat that the question was not asking about any damping of the resonance.  The question specifically asked for short simple answers.  Keep it simple, stupid.

I carefully watched all of the replies and nobody got it.  Ironically enough, early on in the discussion Magluvin said something like "if you change from regular glass to lead glass then the glass will be heavier and the resonant frequency will decrease."  So he answered one-half of one of the questions but it flew right by and nobody paid any attention to it afterwards.  Half of of the puzzle for one question was solved by Magluvin and nobody recognized it and tried to take that information and run with it and arrive at a correct answer for one of the two questions.

[MileHigh]

I know this is getting stale, but this is laughable:

Please do not take any notice of MHs messed up timing diagram and associated wave form,as it is incorrect. Faradays law of induction says that it is incorrect. How MH came up with that one--i will never know.

FIRST THE EGG, THEN THE CHICKEN.