Joule Thief 101

[tinman]

 

No Brad, I have explained how to answer that question probably between 20 and 40 times over the years on this forum and I have nothing to prove to you.  Surprisingly, you missed it.  Although, considering you corrected your own spelling mistake and scolded _me_ about it, I suppose nothing is surprising.

Please point me in the direction of just one of those answers to your ideal inductor and ideal voltage question,as i have never seen you answer that question correctly.
Stop trying to avoid answering the question MH,and just post your answer here--i bet it is wrong.

Here is big news for you:  When one cap discharges into another cap you lose half the energy and the same thing happens with two air tanks.

And that just go's to show you how little you know.
So now you can just make energy disappear
You truly are clueless MH.
When transferring compressed air from one tank to another until both tanks are in pressure equilibrium ,no energy is lost--you loose nothing-->and the same go's for the cap's-->the energy is not !!lost!!

If the tanks are well insulated(as they were in my test),then the transfer results in no energy loss at all. You are of course free to go and find the thread ,where myself and MarkE carefully calculated the start and end pressures and temperatures ,and calculated no energy loss during the transfer,and place your argument against the results.

Magluvin said that he "fails to believe" that you lose half the energy in the case of the capacitors

And Mag's was correct. You cannot !loose! energy--it just dose not disappear--you cannot destroy energy--->basic 001

Really, why should anybody believe anything you say after reading that?  You clearly are in "nightmare from hell" mode and you will almost say anything.  It's a sad grotesque thing to see.

And more lies.
What is sad,is your lack of knowledge in the simplest of things. Your last statements(along with a truck load of others in this thread) regarding energy lost when transferring compressed air from one tank to another until they reach pressure equilibrium ,shows just how far you are behind in your education.You are truly clueless.

so perhaps both of you would want to investigate capacitors and air tanks in more detail to understand what is going on.

It is you that needs the education boost MH,not myself and Mag's.

If you are going to proclaim over unity then the burden of proof is on you.

Here is the deal MH.
You answer your own coil question correctly,and i will show you a 20% increase in stored energy from that which created it. -->but you have to get your own ideal inductor/ideal voltage question right-->and no help from the other guru's on this-or any other forum.

why should anybody believe anything you say after reading that

Because after reading the garbage you just wrote,they will be smart enough to see who knows what,and who has lied throughout this thread.

Can you read the words in the picture below MH?
If you can,then get of my back about spelling.
If you cant,then you need all the pieces to put a puzzle together,and have no vision to read between the lines.


Brad

[MileHigh]

<<< And Mag's was correct. You cannot !loose! energy--it just dose not disappear--you cannot destroy energy--->basic 001 >>>

You are just one never-ending shameless barrel of monkeys Brad.  Did you ever hear the expression, "Energy lost to heat?"  Keep on being that creepy horrible nightmare from hell.  What ugliness there is under your skin.  Dunning-Kruger effect, OCD for being wrong or perceived as being wrong, and a creepy ugly bogan to boot.

[ramset]

Nice read...and yes it is odd how fast it can be read .

perhaps I might interject a thought regarding the Airtank and MH's analogy .

all venturi effects or Temp/Phase /gravitational/ Buoyancy  effects out of the equation .


if you place two identical tanks next to each other ,

tank A has 100 lbs of air

Tank B Zero

you will never get over 50 lbs into tank B from Tank A

So a total transfer is impossible , but all the energy is still in the system.

[Pirate88179]

Nice read...and yes it is odd how fast it can be read .

perhaps I might interject a thought regarding the Airtank and MH's analogy .

all venturi effects or Temp/Phase /gravitational/ Buoyancy  effects out of the equation .


if you place two identical tanks next to each other ,

tank A has 100 lbs of air

Tank B Zero

you will never get over 50 lbs into tank B from Tank A

So a total transfer is impossible , but all the energy is still in the system.

You can if you use the air from tank A to drive a turbine which runs a generator which runs a compressor...you still have the air, and it is compressed again...well...not all of it of course...but more than 50%.

Bill

[tinman]

<<< And Mag's was correct. You cannot !loose! energy--it just dose not disappear--you cannot destroy energy--->basic 001 >>>

You are just one never-ending shameless barrel of monkeys Brad.  Did you ever hear the expression, "Energy lost to heat?"  Keep on being that creepy horrible nightmare from hell.  What ugliness there is under your skin.

You mean energy dissipated as heat--not lost to heat. Heat is the result of an energy transformation.
Please use correct terms,as this would of also helped you out in your wine glass bumble.

Now--you were saying about half the energy being lost when transferring compressed air from one tank to another?. How did you go with that?.

Also,how is your answer coming along,regarding your ideal inductor,and ideal voltage ?--we are all waiting for your big reveal 

Dunning-Kruger effect, OCD for being wrong or perceived as being wrong, and a creepy ugly bogan to boot.

We only have to review some of your language on this thread to see who is the creepy one here.
You have been wrong so many times on this thread,it's not funny. You continually lie about me,and the things i have said,to the point where you are now starting to believe your own lies.

You have now made another mistake,and stated that half of the energy is lost in pressured air transfer from one tank to another-->another big crock of crap,and i have proven this wrong-along with MarkE,who done all the energy calculations.

Cant wait to read your answer to your own question-the ideal inductor meets the ideal voltage.
The unstoppable force meets the unmovable object


Brad