Joule Thief 101

[MileHigh]

Task yourself with this:  Define "ideal CEMF" first.  I really want to know what it means.  Then go find proof that when you connect a voltage source across a resistor that you get "ideal CEMF" from the resistor.

[Magluvin]

"Being that an ideal voltage source has zero internal resistance, and, thus, 100% efficiency to outputting all of its voltage to a load due to perfect voltage division, its voltage ouput to a load is steady and constant and doesn't fluctuate even if load resistance values change."

No a single word there about it not varying in time.

Sometimes you are expected to be able to think on your own.  Like this, "Hey, a voltage can have a zero output impedance and change value in time."

Well Im happy that when I look up 'Ideal Voltage Source" that it is described as a voltage source that the voltage cannot drift, change or vary.  So you will have to invent a new name for what you consider a 'Self Varying Ideal Voltage Source" . Because that is not the definition of an 'Ideal Voltage Source'. 

Can everyone reading this please look it up and find whether Im wrong or right on this?


"Sometimes you are expected to be able to think on your own. " 

Well that is exactly what you are doing is making up your own definitions and calling it an Ideal Voltage Source, is it not? ?  You make it up as you go to fit your argument without a shred of proof as to being what you say. Thats a problem when it comes to comprehending what you say. Can you understand that from our point of view? 


Mags

[Magluvin]

Task yourself with this:  Define "ideal CEMF" first.  I really want to know what it means.  Then go find proof that when you connect a voltage source across a resistor that you get "ideal CEMF" from the resistor.

Dude, that is just a beat around the bush statement. There is not even the word Ideal Resistor in that statement, of which Ideal is what we are talking about. No???

If it were an ideal resistor there wouldnt be any cemf, as the ideal resistor has no inductance to have cemf occur.  You act as if we know nothing at all. Gees. Well you are wrong. 


Mags 

[Magluvin]

"Being that an ideal voltage source has zero internal resistance, and, thus, 100% efficiency to outputting all of its voltage to a load due to perfect voltage division, its voltage ouput to a load is steady and constant and doesn't fluctuate even if load resistance values change."

No a single word there about it not varying in time.

Sometimes you are expected to be able to think on your own.  Like this, "Hey, a voltage can have a zero output impedance and change value in time."

"No a single word there about it not varying in time." 

I totally agree that there is 'not' a single word in the definition of an Ideal Voltage Source that states that the voltage can vary with time.  Only your definition which changes the rules as you need them to be to hold up your argument.

So show me 'thee' definition of Ideal Voltage Source that states the voltage from the source varies with time. 

Mags

[MileHigh]

You are just making a fool out of yourself Magluvin and if you are trying to play me then you are a double-fool.  Go chase after Brad because he is the brainiac that invented the term "Ideal CEMF."  It's an on-the-fly definition from him, another "pearl of wisdom" from his stream of consciousness.  Yes, in the basic definition of the term counter electromotive force, a resistor also generates CEMF in response to the current that is flowing through it.  It's a matter of perspective.  Deep thoughts Magluvin, deep thoughts.  You make me laugh about the "rules" about an ideal voltage source.  One more time, you can trace that back to another inspired steam-of-consciousness "pearl of wisdom" from Brad.  Go get your training and the definitions of the "new terms" from Brad - he is the originator of this stuff.