Joule Thief 101

[Pirate88179]

You say tomato https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l05OuJ8GRs8

I don't think resonance can break that glass, ha ha.  I love that!  All those people at the party using this glass....
then...a little while later....they are all asleep.  Classic.

We need a beer mug that holds a case of beer...and...keeps it cold at the same time.

Bill

[MileHigh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJAgrUBF4w

Look!  Resonance and quantum entanglement!  The Illuminati!  Building 7!  Roswell!  All there if you just look!   

[Pirate88179]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJAgrUBF4w

Look!  Resonance and quantum entanglement!  The Illuminati!  Building 7!  Roswell!  All there if you just look!   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yaqUI4b974&feature=iv&src_vid=wvJAgrUBF4w&annotation_id=annotation_964432

Here is that same video without music so you can hear the actual tones.

MH, is this real?  Does sound really make these shapes or is it some sort of special effects vid?

Bill

[TinselKoala]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Chladni#Chladni_figures

[tinman]

I answered your questions exactly. I can show you the mathematics of how this works,
it is basically the same math I have shown in most of the other examples.

I could go further, and break down the system into each individual component, the glass, the dimensional component of its shape and size,
as well as the vibratory translational effects of the liquid inside the glass, in direct relation to the frequencies input, along a graph.

But let us skip all that with which you will continue to argue, and move forward to what is exactly your point?
Do you intend to give some obscure and enlightening vision of "the mechanisms of vibration and how they make the glass resonate"?
Or some terms by which this frequency should be determined, other than what I already stated?

Do you intend to share your "informed viewpoint" ?
Or did you simply come here to tell us that 200 years of physics is wrong, then leave us in the dark?

smOKy

MHs question is loaded,and can have many meanings. Of course we will be seen as using the wrong meaning,and that is how MH will claim his distorted victory. Look at his line bellow
apply that knowledge and !!crystallize!! it down to answering two simple questions about a resonating wine glass.
Maybe some sort of !whackadoo! hint as to where he is going--but of course we have already covered material makeup of the wine glass as being 1 of the determining factors as to how the frequency will be determined for that wine glass.

Determine
cause (something) to occur in a particular way or to have a particular nature.
ascertain or establish exactly by research or calculation.
firmly decide.

Determined
having made a firm decision and being resolved not to change it.
possessing or displaying resolve..

So MHs question-how !is! the resonant frequency determined in a wine glass,is a question.
The answer could be-you determine the resonant frequency of the wine glass by (1 example)-The "resonant" or "natural" frequency of the goblet can be determined by "pinging" it and listening to the pitch of the "ringing". By using a microphone and oscilloscope we can determine this resonant frequency quite accurately.
http://www.all-science-fair-projects.com/project424_89.html
So how is it determined?-- (in this case)it was determined by way of using a microphone and scope.

His question (how is it determined) could also mean the other answers we have already given--the chemical and physical makeup of the wine glass it self. All these factors would determine what the resonant frequency of the wine glass would be. His little crystallizecomment is covered in the structure(chemical) makeup of the wine glass it self.

So you see,his question is loaded,and has many meanings,and so his question(once again) is not definitive it self-much like the one he asked EMJ some time back on EMJs thread.
MH has nothing to show in regards to experiment's,and as you have seen here in this thread,is as yet to answer one of his question's--that will take 4 to 8 weeks. This gives him time to try and work out how he can emerge victorious,and how he can show everyone else that we have no idea as to what resonance is.

The fact that he made a very clear and precise statement that an ICE has no resonant systems,is testimony that he him self cannot or dose not understand resonance,and the effect it can have on different systems-like increase wanted energy output,while decreasing the required energy input.

So head's up smOKy-->beware of the loaded gun.


Brad