Joule Thief 101

[Magluvin]

Mags
I brought you a Thing...if you haven't seen this thing ,,,your gonna Luv it

thanks to Franco for posting it .

http://www.lafucina.it/2014/09/01/esperimento-acqua-e-suono/

takes the salt shaker sound pattern vid to the next level..I wonder if cavitated water [zillion fine bubbles] in an aquarium
or rain drops in an aquarium ?? would show the salt shaker waves you posted  in 3 D ...or maybe  smoke in an aquarium ??

what a wild place we live in !!

That was really cool. Thanks

here is the direct YT link 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uENITui5_jU

Mags

[Bob Smith]

That was really cool. Thanks

here is the direct YT link 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uENITui5_jU

Mags

I agree - very cool.
But oh dear, frequency altering the effects of gravity?  My my.  Maybe there really is something to this resonance thing
Bob

[MileHigh]

"They are people that cannot and do not answer there own question's--and yet expect others to answer these questions within days,and to be answered in the same twisted way that the presenter of the questions wants them answered in."

I think there is more to it than that, but thats all Ill say. For now. (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Mags

There is nothing more to it than that.  I can answer my own questions, Brad is talking nonsense.  There is nothing twisted about my straight forward questions, more nonsense.

If you have something to say, go ahead.

What I can see is that you are doing some searching on resonance because this discussion has given you the motivation to inform and educate yourself instead of just being on cruise control.

Have you ever disagreed with Brad in your life?  I have a feeling that you haven't, it's the good old straitjacket effect.  I am sure that you have read stuff that he has posted that you disagree with strongly, but you stay mute.  It just promotes stagnation.

Why don't you answer the questions yourself?  I have to assume that you can't either.  So we have a trio of "resonance researchers" that can't answer a few simple questions about a resonating wine glass.  That should make you all want to try to get better and more informed, and not to whine and complain like Brad.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

I agree - very cool.
But oh dear, frequency altering the effects of gravity?  My my.  Maybe there really is something to this resonance thing
Bob

Frequency also makes propellers on airplanes spin slowly backwards and yet the planes fly forwards. 

[tinman]

"These are time waster's,and are here only to make life hard."

Im with ya there 100%.


"They are people that cannot and do not answer there own question's--and yet expect others to answer these questions within days,and to be answered in the same twisted way that the presenter of the questions wants them answered in."

I think there is more to it than that, but thats all Ill say. For now.

Mags

Yes,and they laugh at things they dont understand,like-->
The "one other force that is vital in determining the top speed of the vehicle" is gravity.  If the car is on a downhill slope, it will have a higher top speed compared to if the car is on a flat surface.  If the car is on an uphill slope, it will have a lower top speed compared to if the car is on a flat surface.
Wow, such profound insights - NOT.  That would be a laughable "MileHigh is WRONG!" argument from Brad.

The thing is,gravitational force is indeed the missing factor needed in order to make a correct determination of the cars top speed. But it would seem that MH has decided that the gravitational force is determined or !included in! the total frictional forces in his master piece.
I also remember him referring to a sewing machine,where he decided that a sewing machine has no resonant frequency at all--another bumbled attempt at trying to dismiss resonant frequencies in everyday machines. Well i'm calling him out on this one as well,as the sewing machine dose indeed have a resonant frequency that in directly inline with the scientific model of resonance--you only have to look at the mechanical workings of the sewing machine,and Tesla's earth quake machine,where you have a very small oscillating weight,that when the oscillation frequency is at the correct frequency,larger secondary masses will begin to oscillate at large amplitudes.

Everything this !!teacher!! has said so far -in this thread alone,has been incorrect-->and yet his insistence on us being wrong continues.
We now see remark's like--you cannot have a reasonable debate about the subject -->this of course coming from some one that is yet to put forward any explanations toward this discussion-and refuses to do so. So how do we have a debate when only one side has been putting all the effort into answering questions asked ? How is it that these answers could be deemed wrong by the questionnaire,when he has put forward no answers toward this debate that he insist we should be having?--not to mention that he has been wrong on every occasion so far.

There is also the fact that this list of incorrectness is growing for said teacher as the thread go's on.
This list i expect to continue to grow--we will see how he go's with the gravitational force in regards to his top speed of a car determination,and whether or not he will become the first to work out what the force of gravity is--is it just resistance I dont expect an answer to be forth coming on this one.
Then there is his sewing machine saga,where the sewing machine was suppose to be some sort of distorted representation of a 2 stroke engine that would disprove resonant systems within the 2 stroke ICE. I am saying that the sewing machine dose indeed have a point of opperating speed where a resonant frequency is reached--> i will await said teachers response on this one as well--but i also expect that there will be none now that he has had time to think about his silly little statements.


So continue your attack on me MH,and i will continue to defend myself by way of exposing every mistake you have mad so far on this thread alone.

Summery
The sewing machine dose indeed have a resonant operating frequency.
Gravity !IS! the missing vital piece to your attempt at determining the top speed of a car--and it is not a frictional force.
ICEs do have resonant systems that do increase the efficiency of that ICE.
A debate cannot happen when only one side is putting forward there thought's,while the other side refuses to put forward there thought's.

The "one other force that is vital in determining the top speed of the vehicle" is gravity.  If the car is on a downhill slope, it will have a higher top speed compared to if the car is on a flat surface.  If the car is on an uphill slope, it will have a lower top speed compared to if the car is on a flat surface.
Wow, such profound insights - NOT.  That would be a laughable

So man up MH,and lets see who has the last laugh.
Lets see you prove that the gravitational force is accounted for in your !total friction and engine HP! is all that is needed to make the top speed of a car determination.
You want to debate a subject?--then lets start with this one,as we cannot debate the wine glass questions until you  actually put forward some sort of counter claim.

Once we have sorted the !top speed of a car! debate,we can start off on the sewing machines resonant frequency curve ball you threw in there,in some wacky attempt to dismiss resonant operations in an ICE.

One by one we will put an end to your rubbish and disinformation you are plastering all over this thread for some reason ---along with your !so far! failed attempt to discredit me.


Brad