Ultracaps tested for excess energy

[broli]

I'm not sure where to post the software .exe file, and the source code.

Regards,
Paul

Just put it all in a rar or zip file and attach it to your post. You can do the same on your blog by uploading it to a (or several) free file hosting websites like:

http://www.filesavr.com/
http://www.filedropper.com/

Keep up the good job. This circuit and software will definitely be handy for the free energy tinkerer. Be sure to include an open source and copyright disclaimer.

[electricme]

@ Paul,

That's very good news on your progress with the software, excellent work.

broli has a point there, those would be good sites to post the software and maybe a readme file to explain the installation and operation of the software with a disclaimer too.

I have a suggestion for you Paul.
Get a copy of Install Creator, a very good Install making ZIP file utility, it is cheep, (free) from www.clickteam.com
It can create a single Install and a uninstall file if needed by the user.

The only item they didn't explain in their build, is you need to make a couple of icons and put them somewhere you can access them during the ZIP build.
An icon for the desktop, one for original install and one for removal, it helps a lot.

I use my mob phone camera to make the orig ipg then convert it to a manageable icon size. 

Anyway if you want send me the .EXE via my email address, and I will make a example install zip for you and return it to you for your evaluation.

If you have already the means to do the above, that's OK by me also.


jim

[MileHigh]

Paul:

Well, your data is telling you that your test setup for testing that capacitor value is very inaccurate.  I suppose that you are testing an electrolytic capacitor?  You make the intelligent assumption that the electrolytic capacitor is probably at least 99.9% efficient.  It could be much much better that that.  I don't know because this type of measurement almost never comes up in real life.  What you do know for sure is that there is no logical reason for the 40000 uF cap to loose that much energy as heat.  The leads of the capacitor and the capacitor plates are all metal, an excellent conductor that will not really dissipate much energy resistively at all.  It simply doesn't make sense.  Therefore the logical conclusion is that your test setup is extremely inaccurate to the tune of +/-20%.

I suggest that you go back to the drawing board before you start making any measurements on ultracapacitors.

I assume that somebody will send Paul a message because he may have put me on his ignore list.

Just think, if Paul's measurement error was on the positive side, you would all be doing back-flips thinking that Paul had "discovered" free energy with ultracapacitors.

Of course, in this thread I have made an overwhelming case that ultracapacitors are essentially the same as ordinary capacitors with a whole series of technical points and two references from the web.  I don't think that any "believers" out there have made a single comment or acknowledgment of these facts.

This whole thread is a farce.

MileHigh

[electricme]

@ Milehigh,

Your pulling our chain's again you big turkey.

You say you "suppose" you are testing an electrolytic capacitor, in other words, all your diatribe is "supposition" or made up, pretending its accurate.

Please show us all your math where you get the idea that the cap Paul tested is 99.9% efficient, come on, you stated a fact, back this one up with proof.
You are espousing all these calculations with capacitors over all the above posts, you are trying to impress us all, so come on charlie brown, prove to us all you don't have a lost sheep in the top paddock.

Paul in his post addressed to "me" stated a figure of 79% even a 3rd grade primary school kid can see that 79% is exactly 79%, nothing less or more.

This appears on the 4Th line down, 10Th across = 79% anyone who reads this can see you made a mistake, A WHOPPER at that tooooooo.

You state it is 99.9%, sooooooo just how can you come at this figure (wheres the missing 21% in your calculations?  (He musta added it in hisself)) when you weren't even present to the actual tester himself, while the test was done HUH, come on MileHigh, pull the other one it's got bells on it.

Math according to Milehigh is     1+1=5   2+6=13  4+4= 23             now get this everyone 79% = 99.9% Bahhhha Ha Ha

You want Paul to go back to the drawing board, I suggest you go back to school chum.
You say the whole thread is a farce.

OK Mile high, the answer is so clear to me and others, clear off, pack you bag and leave, very simple.

jim

[MileHigh]

Hey there Jim:

Your posting just conforms what a farce this thread is.

How much do you know about electronics?  How many years of experience?  The last I heard all of the companies that made capacitors that lost 20% of their energy in a single charge-discharge cycle went bankrupt a long time ago.

If you had any brains in your head you would read what I posted and try to absorb it and understand it.  Instead, you do a big song and dance number about 79% vs. 99.9% like a mischievous schoolboy.

79% means that Paul has got it wrong big time.  Remember that he was unaware about the digital voltage step for his A/D converter?  It wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't have enough precision to record the small voltage increases on the cap step by step, and he is getting cumulative errors.  I am not really sure what he is doing but one thing for sure, he did not think to question his own data, a huge mistake.  Nor would I be surprised if his algorithm is flawed.

You really have to think when you work with electronics otherwise you succumb to the "garbage in - garbage out" phenomenon.

And I want YOU to stop telling me to go away.  Instead, why don't you look up a data sheet for an electrolytic capacitor and see if you can find some sort of spec that relates to energy loss in the cap.  You might not even find one because it's an issue that doesn't really come up that often.

If this farce of a thread does come to its proper conclusion then you and Bill will feel like fools for badgering me all the time.  I tried to give you some good solid information and all that you could do was act like argumentative brats and not budge an inch from your limited perspectives that are skewed by your lust for the dream of free energy.

MileHigh