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Ultracaps tested for excess energy

Started by PaulLowrance, November 30, 2009, 12:47:01 PM

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Groundloop

@gyulasun,

Thank you for trying to explain how it is possible to make current in a coil
with a magnetic flux.

Alex.


MileHigh

Albert:

Stop trying to demonize me.

A JT does not produce an irregular oscillation it normally produces a regular periodic oscillation.  The whole notion that the back spike is "suppressed" by "current electrical laws" is an old wives' tale that the experimenters around here say.  To say that stable peaks are unwanted for your project is another myth.  If you produce irregular spikes with your setup or regular spikes, either way the coil will discharge it's stored energy that comes from the battery.  Again, it is really fairly simple:  When the transistor switches on, the inductor starts to store battery energy in its magnetic field and also starts to dissipate battery energy resistively.  The time constant for reaching 63% of the maximum current in the inductor is L/R.  If you switch on the transistor for three or less time constants, then you maximize the energy stored in the magnetic field and minimize the energy lost resistively.  The JT circuit does this more or less automatically but you have very little control over its running frequency.  If you use an external timing source then you gain complete control of its running frequency and you can decide exactly how many L/R time constants that you want to switch the transistor "on" time to be.  When the transistor switches off the inductor will discharge into some sort of a load.  How the inductor will discharge into a resistive load is essentially the same as the charging process but this time the inductor is discharging it's stored energy with a different L/R time constant.  It is all very very straightforward and fully understood.

You shouldn't get sidetracked by the idea that you need to have astable oscillation to get more benefits from your circuit.  You just think that is the case because you see more power output from the back spikes with astable oscillation and think that it is better.  What you are not seeing is that you are consuming more battery power when you do this, so there are no real advantages to astable oscillation.

MileHigh

gadgetmall

You are what you are . and if you took what i said a demonizing then your really off your rocker . I was polite  and considered you had a bit of Soul and understanding . You don't your heartless computer orientated mind can't get past the FACT you don't know a jt function from an experiments point at all . nor do you understand that  Tesla ,bedini and bearden are  the ones who discovered .published and explained positive electricity and exploited  :Quote"high electrostatic scalar potentials by capturing them  or vacuum oscillations without tapping the energy embedded  in the oscillations itself . It is not conventional science Nor is it Electronics 101 theory  or laws and yet you claim it was known . It is unrecognized  principals  of nature . Forces may be manipulated and engineered in  force free fashion by directly manipulating their force free percursors .  The Manipulations is considered re-guaging . Electromagnetic energy can be transmitted from a source to a reciever by scalar-curvature R, and that electromagnetic energy is available in NON-Eucidean spacetime .The charge obtainable from a given curvature R in a given volume is about 12 ordered of magnitude  greater than the mass obtainable from the same curvature R for the same Value  The charge and concomitant electromagnetic energy available from curvature induced by mass is amplified by about 12 order of magnitude "Thisis why big toroids produce BIGGER effect and Why a controled oscillation wont produce the same effect as a random one does .  A simple experiment for you . take a battery wire and two leds . but the leds in parallel opposite each other . connect the leds, one will light THEN remove the wire . the other will light (blink). tap the circuit on and off and you can see that random arcing makes the off led blink brighter . BEMF force This is the energy that would be wasted in conventional science. another easy experiment is a common transformer put the leds on a secondary and spark a battery on the primary  same thing same a a Jt also. Just look at Motors that use coils and imagine they can be made 100times for efficient if they would only utilize this force. 

ALbert
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MileHigh

Albert:

All Bedini motors work based on classical electronics principles and there is nothing special about them at all.  A Bedini motor is just yet another variation on the Joule Thief concept.  This stuff is really all about exploiting the fact that inductors can produce high voltage spikes and to many enthusiasts this is "sexy" and "exciting" and "mysterious."

Inductors can produce high voltage spikes and capacitors can produce high current spikes.  They are in all ways mirror images of each other.  However current spikes are not "sexy" because they don't have the high visibility of voltage spikes.  So capacitors get the short end of the stick and inductors get all of the glamour.

I can see that you were quoting some Tom Beardenese.  It seems that Tom has a problem though.  Now he is an aging old man and for all his esoteric theories, he does not have a single device that produces free energy at all.  He's got nothing.  The same thing for John Bedini.   Did you notice Johnny-boy endorsed Mylow and even did a "glamour clip" where he pulled out Howard Johnson's magnet track array that doesn't work?

Yes the world is indeed a mysterious place.  There is perhaps more mystery in the character of men than there is in the natural phenomena that is out there for us to observe and explore.  If you open your mind to what is really going on you may find more things bizarre and out of the ordinary when you look at the former instead of the latter.

MileHigh

gadgetmall

I was quoting John not bearden and John has Patents and sells real machines using his principal and has his own business and manufacturing company . . I know some one who have one and it cost over 2000 dollars and are manufactured today . They are Bedine energizers .Thats how much you know !
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