Ultracaps tested for excess energy

[gadgetmall]

After just logging in today I made a post in the joule thief main thread about doing two new experiments. 1) Find out how many times my fully charged AA 200mAh NiMH battery can charge the UC. 2) See how much energy is in the fully charged AA battery by connecting a load and data logging. After reading the recent posts in this thread, it seems experiment #2 is more important right now.

It's a fact that the voltage from any battery begins dropping after using it. The rate at which the voltage drops is slow at first and increases at a faster rate over time. Every type of battery has different characteristics.

Paul

Hey paul For your experiment to be Valid you need a fairly NEW NI/mh 2500 ma rechargable Energizer or equilivent .Ni/cad will drop  as alkiline or lithium ion . I have charged on a ni/cad that i brought to lafe a few time over 7 years but this was to charge it only and i did not attempt to recharge it with a bcap . No sence in that i will be using all new stuff anyways . also i might just abandone the battery all togeter and get this whole conversation about batterys out of the way and use strickly Bcaps ..Cost for Stephans units will be about 300 dollars plus between 200 or 300 labor cost . This is because it will now use two bcaps.  Or not . i may just keep the bcap units  for myself and devise a cheaper way . the battery is the cheapest but too much contraversy for me . Paul appreciate your Experiments . I really would like to know aboutthe anomilious pulse's and the way the bcap converts these into enengy . pirate used his Eb to charge up his over night . My Eb will charge them up to 1.5 volts in a few days .

[innovation_station]

i think that is a perfect choise gadget then we can get rid compleatly the bs crap talk ...

we can use a solar as a back up charger for base cap ... keeps it really simple ...  want the solar to shut off when cap is full ...  the darn driveing cap will run a jt likely a month or more on 1 4 hour solar charge ... that means all output cap can be used ... and you will always have a reserve ...


IM TELLING YOU THERE 10000000000 MILLION WAYS ... but they all work on 1 thing ...

hummmmmm

IS

[MrMag]

Hey paul For your experiment to be Valid you need a fairly NEW NI/mh 2500 ma rechargable Energizer or equilivent .Ni/cad will drop  as alkiline or lithium ion . I have charged on a ni/cad that i brought to lafe a few time over 7 years but this was to charge it only and i did not attempt to recharge it with a bcap . No sence in that i will be using all new stuff anyways . also i might just abandone the battery all togeter and get this whole conversation about batterys out of the way and use strickly Bcaps ..Cost for Stephans units will be about 300 dollars plus between 200 or 300 labor cost . This is because it will now use two bcaps.  Or not . i may just keep the bcap units  for myself and devise a cheaper way . the battery is the cheapest but too much contraversy for me . Paul appreciate your Experiments . I really would like to know aboutthe anomilious pulse's and the way the bcap converts these into every . pirate used his Eb to charge up his over night . My Eb will charge them up to 1.5 volts in a few days .

Using 2 bcaps and removing the battery would be the best way to prove OU. Start with a partially charged bcap on the jt that will charge a completely drained  bcap on the secondary. If this is truly OU, in time both caps should be fully charged

[innovation_station]

yep i agree ...

thank you mr. m

you require enough reserve to keep its pace ...  menaing .. i dont think you could use a 10 f on in put and a 650 f on out put and expect the same results ... unless.... 

well thats a story for later ......

william

[gadgetmall]

I got some 30f coming i might try those . And just to add to the "mystery of the Bcap" a bedini will charge them up to full power . No mystery . the high  normaly wasted not in any electronics book BEMF spikes are converted to usable energy in the form of AMPS and VOLTS !