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Ultracaps tested for excess energy

Started by PaulLowrance, November 30, 2009, 12:47:01 PM

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Quote from: Vortex1 on December 14, 2009, 10:24:06 PM
Here's a little theme song for the inspector

Hope you all enjoy......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcpofztr19E

hope you all enjoy i turned down the cussing ...

PEACE ?

LOL

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKu3NAAWdWw&NR=1&feature=fvwp

inspector and gadget beatboxing ... lol
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

MileHigh

Albert and Bill:

You guys should relax.  Especially you Albert, just relax and don't overstress yourself considering your health issues.

There was lots of trash talk today.  You have to realize something important.  The whole point is to talk about what you guys are doing and bounce some ideas off of you.  It's not about fighting, it's about understanding.  It would be very cool if you actually understood what you are doing.  I can see just that statement making both of you angry - don't - open up your minds.

I have read your claims before, but for me the real issue is just to get you to see and understand the nuts and bolts behind your claims.  That's it, as simple as that.  To shed some light on the issues.

There is a difference between understanding and doing.  You can wander through the JT thread and read about all of your different configurations and watch the clips, and see the reported results.  However, and it's a big however, the signal to noise ratio is really really low, something you might not be conscious of.

Going back to the understanding, let me take a few examples.

Okay, so you can get a JT to light four LEDs brightly.  Then 10 brightly, then 50 brightly.  Great.

Here is the question for both of you:  Please explain how that works.  I am being dead serious.  How come you can keep on adding LEDs and they stay bright, and eventually when you add a hell of a lot of LEDs finally it starts to go down in intensity?  How can a 1.5 volt battery do this?  I would really like to hear what you have to say.

For Bill, okay so you use your Earth Energy System to light your Christmas tree lights for "free."  Yes, euphemistically the light is "free."  But can you explain how it works?  You know some energy is coming from somewhere, what's the process?

That's what I'm interested in.  You can apply-apply-apply and try multiple secondaries on your JT circuits or charge capacitors or change diodes or transistors or whatever - but the real issue for me is _how_ is all this stuff working at its basic level.

I don't know why there is all of this going at loggerheads - it's crazy.  So again, it's not so much the doing, it's the understanding.

MileHigh

Vortex1

From MileHigh

QuoteOkay, so you can get a JT to light four LEDs brightly.  Then 10 brightly, then 50 brightly.  Great.

Here is the question for both of you:  Please explain how that works.  I am being dead serious.  How come you can keep on adding LEDs and they stay bright, and eventually when you add a hell of a lot of LEDs finally it starts to go down in intensity?  How can a 1.5 volt battery do this?  I would really like to hear what you have to say.

This is easy to answer but out of courtesy I'll give the other guys first crack. I'll PM my answer to MileHigh. He can post it later if he likes.

Kind Regards.....V

MileHigh

Thank's Vortex1, because the question is really for Albert and Bill.  Not to start a fight but to really try to get to the bottom of this issue, and shed some light on it.

Another one for Albert, a 'big picture' question.  You stated that you just want to make enough free energy for your yourself and your loved ones, your home.  Forget about everybody else, start with your own space.  That stance or philosophy has a real flaw, and I wonder if you can state what the flaw is with that philosophy.

Pirate88179

Quote from: Vortex1 on December 14, 2009, 11:42:58 PM
From MileHigh

This is easy to answer but out of courtesy I'll give the other guys first crack. I'll PM my answer to MileHigh. He can post it later if he likes.

Kind Regards.....V

Well the example given by MH is incorrect so I disagree with his premise.  Because you can light 400 leds brightly with just a small JT circuit from an AA battery before you notice a decrease in brightness from adding more, and you can light 1,000 leds from a JT circuit based upon the large toroid (Jeanna's circuit) before noticing a decrease.

LEDs, we have found, will light using high voltage in the correct frequency ranges. We do not need many mA's to do this.  (Tesla discovered this fact many, many years ago with gas filled tubes) If you load down the circuit with too many LEDs for that particular output voltage and/or the load forces the output frequency to go outside of the parameters required by the LEDs, they will get progressively dimmer and, at the saturation or tipping point, not light at all. 

We also found this to be true of gas filled tubes as well.  We light them by exciting the gas inside the tube with high voltage and within the proper frequency range and they light.  We do not need or use the element inside the tube which would require much more power, and much of that power would be wasted as heat.  This has been discovered and discussed in the early pages of the JT topic which MH, admittedly, has not read.

Bill

***EDIT***  I see that I misread the quote from MH by Vortex1.  I thought MH had said when you light 50 LEDs they start dimming so my first sentence is incorrect.
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