STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[maw2432]

Nice one Ben

0v line looking like no BEMF.

Cheers

CLaNZeR

CLaNZer,   

Great to see you are still checking in and are with us.

Could you please give us your thoughts about Orbo?

Do you think the motor is something we should all be replicating?  What is most important?

What can you tell us about what you have seen?   

Science is the best.

Bill

[k4zep]

CLaNZer,   

Great to see you are still checking in and are with us.

Could you please give us your thoughts about Orbo?

Do you think the motor is something we should all be replicating?  What is most important?

What can you tell us about what you have seen?   

Science is the best.

Bill

Hi Bill,

Some rambling thoughts.  I'm tired, its past 10 p.m. so  I won't build any more today, just relax and think and talk a bit.........

First, this is a combination of a AC motor and DC pulse Adams style motor, hence the low current.  There is a heck of a lot going on in a successful motor that I simply do not have the time to go into here.  I'll let Stoern do the teaching and remain the student.
It will be easy to show/build a basic motor for almost any reasonably competent builder but it will be very difficult to demonstrate OU as in a self run device.  I highly recommend that all who can build one of these devices do so as you will learn an incredible amount of information and be a better self educated builder for it!!


It would appear that the Steron motor is VERY efficient if all the AREA of the switched core/coil is utilized.  What we see is definitely NOT optimized but a teaching device and an excellent one at that.  That they have a motor that runs on 1.25 vdc via a reed relay is a basic fact.
It would not seem that as of yet, they have demonstrated OU over a long term.  It would appear that their over simplified switching circuit is simply not rugged enough for multi day operation.  With a battery the size used, it then becomes a suspect that the claim to OU as shown  in their large motor is at this time overly optimistic. 

I have been fortunate to be working with Ossie C on the opposite side of the world.  We have been knocking ideas and trying things for years together and his valuable insight into this device has been most helpful.  We think so much alike it is like I have a double or twin in AU!  Developing a theory and understanding as to exactly how this device works is slowly coming around.  Countless EMails, a few WTF's on some things we see and so on! 

You must understand and I repeat,  IT IS NOT A PULSE MOTOR.  IT IS NOT AN AC MOTOR, it is NOT a Switched Reluctance motor, it is NOT a Stepper Motor spin off.    It is a hybrid of many aspects of all the above devices....As you build, you learn, you will get carpel tunnel syndrome winding toroid coils, some things work, some don't but as I have said in the past and will say in the future, I am retired, I do this for fun.  Stacking rotors will not give you much if any more efficiency, you have to utilize all the energy in each core for maximum efficiency.
So much more to do, I know I have just scratched the surface in my quest for knowledge about this effect, time will tell......

Oh, I sure would like to see inside the base of that neat pendulum at the top when you log in!  Fun to watch!!!!  No I am NOT going to build one right now, but sure downloaded the video!  Anyone know anything about it, hystory?  ?

So build and have fun....

Ben K4ZEP

[callanan]

Hi All,

I have started to work on a low friction rotor to see if I can get the input power down further whilst keeping the RPMs up. That old castor wheel I was using, with huge bearings, really had a great deal of friction and weight... Take a look.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGHCDgZt6ag


I have also learnt how to annotate my videos.

Regards,

Ossie

[captainpecan]

OK GANG,  check out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3LUakks9U4

Actually it will run @ .900 VDC @ 12 ma.  DC pulses should be would be 130 ma but with the coil as an AC device, current drops WAY down.

Enjoy, Their ORBO will run on 1.5 VDC,.....well I proved it will run on .900 VDC, with only one coil,thery are the real thing as far as a motor goes!!!

Ben

Fantastic work!  You also answered my earlier question, as to why they chose to use a reed switch for the public demo.  Most every other way would need more voltage to trigger, and they were trying to SHOCK people into seeing how little power is needed for this effect.  I do feel a higher voltage and less current will of course end up being more efficient in the long run, but you proved what they showed is in fact possible, and so far, nothing major is missing to do it.  It is still not clear as to whether Orbo is more efficient or better than a simple bedini, but I say it is impressive to even be in the same ballpark as Bedini!  This motor design is a good addition into the archives of most efficient motors!

Now, we can hope steorn has a trick up there sleeve about the generator part that they have not shown us yet.

[penno64]

Hi All,

Firstly, many many many thanks for the advice. Oscar, Mondrasek, Neptune and Ossie your advice has helped me to achieve a working motor.

Whilst my coil winding skills are improving, I have not managed to get the full 20 metres onto the core. My last attempt (quadfilar per Ossies video) got me to 4 metres wound on before the centre hole closed up. So I have ended up with one core total length 16 metres and the first redo has only 12 meters. Never the less, I am sure you can imaging my suprise when I powered on the 12v and gave the rotor a gentle bump. It continued and continues to rotate at, I think, 170RPM. ( 6 magnets and pulse from hall effect is 35 milliseconds.  1/.035 * 6 ).

I am hoping if time permits, to get my other two coils wound (hopefully get the full 20m on them with more practice). Then see if I can redo the first two.

With the rough setup that I have and switching with a ciruit similar to JLN - cant buy those hall effects, so had to go with 5v regulator and Jaycars 5v H/E sensor, the current draw at 12v is only 300ma and thats with a 12v car lamp in series with the coils (helps to keep the current down and gives me a visual on coil activation).

The shaft  is an ac fan motor from an airconditioners indoor unit - this has been sandwiched between to chip boards for stability.For the rotor, I have used a piece of MDF and the 6 magnets are held in place with copper saddles and a screw.

Once again, thanks for the assist.

Kindest Regards, Penno