STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[tinu]

@ Stefan and all,

MH is out too? I must have missed it!
It’s a shame that MH was banned and I’m not going to talk about the freedom of speech here… It has been done in the past with little effects…

It seems to me that more and more of the valuable people are leaving, they’re banned or they just stop posting while mediocrity thrives. I know brain surgery usually starts by opening the skull and yes, I have an axe; does it make me a surgeon? Ha! Does it make me competent to go into a forum and post stupidities as advices to real medical doctors just because that forum has also a fringe part? Would you like me to fix your brain disease? Or to try increasing your IQ by a novel approach? Or maybe just to “open your mind”? Come to daddy then…
Pretty much the same inhere. Just my opinion!

But I think there is more. The newly proclaimed inventors that, mostly undergraduate and barely writing in their native language, throw huge claims on the public domain and they then cry “skeptics, skeptics” when someone points to the simple truth and to their naivity/stupidity! Don’t do what you’ve not been trained to do ppl or while you insist on doing it even against your training and maybe way beyond your intellectual abilities, at least accept that you are a humble learner. We all are learners during our entire life but let the skeptics be skeptics when brain surgery is being done by illiterates with axes in their hands who assume no responsibility, ok?

I’d like to see the day when a super-hero-elite is banned for his/her crap or otherwise penalized for the hundreds and hundreds of men-hours and thousands of dollars some spend because of his/her BS that could not be criticized by a so called “skeptical” for obvious reasons already. But that ain’t gonna happen, right? Remember the name of the game? Better get as many monkeys as possible and let the paper roll on the typewriter maybe a poem will be written some day… Those who disagree are banned, some don’t really care and others play ostrich… Nice!

Last, I’d like to point out that every coin has to faces and in everything there is a balance; no matter what happens into this forum, equilibrium will be somehow reached. But I’d like to say that progress has been achieved especially by conflicting ideas. And skeptics (not the lunatics) are the ones who raise challenges and those who really motivate to get the best out of any idea if there is any substance in it. As for the builders, I have the utmost respect for them but we need to remember that we live in times when extremes like nanorobotics and monumental experimental installations are both flourishing. Are we to rediscover the wheel (and bearings) here?! We also need to remember that in a long time now (like 200 years or so) the vision of human mind is constantly and well ahead of incidental observations and of discoveries by chance. I have to say also that although is pleasant and meaningful to make an experimental setup or to build a device (and there were quite a lot of people doing it), I couldn’t find many threads here that progressed beyond a fairly basic level and even lesser (if any) that came to any practical result, be it the most minor one. Why? Is that because of skeptics or negativists? Yeah, right. MH, TK (and so many others having the same faith) came inhere (as disguised MIBs, maybe) and took ahold of peoples’ arms and brains, huh?! Something is then going terribly wrong here…

If you people wish to have only home experimenters (where did that came from?!!!), fine but if you agree with it Stefan, please state it on the first page (or on the ‘create account’ or “T&C” page) so others don’t waste their time inhere. At least some members would be happier after getting rid of people like me much easier… (I’m for evolutive professional builds and cost-sharing, for instance.)
If ignoring a user is an option, why not use it? (apparently isn’t enough, is it?!)
If this forum is mainly for entertaining (until that “OU day” that hasn’t come yet), why hiding and pretending it’s something else?
If it’s not for entertaining, why it failed to produce any result?
Isn’t it because OU is just a dream and in reality it is just the crooks and delusionals that cry wolf?
Why there is so much noise here speaking loudly and the real brain-power so much needed is actually silenced?
So many rhetorical questions…

Besides being disgusted (pretty obvious, huh?), I really feel like doing brain surgery to someone... Maybe 3 years was too much and it’s about time to change heading…
My deepest apologize for going so off-topic and a last question: how do I delete my account? (please reply if there is a button for it - I couldn't find it; or if there is not such a button, please delete my account entirely.)

Best regards and good luck to everyone!
Tinu out.

[akashh]

Hi guys - very interesting reading, this whole thread makes you really think.
Regarding the change in inductance in a toroid in the presence of a magnetic field - wouldn't that explain why you are not getting a large back EMF pulse when you are switching off the coil?  Since at the point when the magnet is closest to the coil the inductance is lower it wouldn't have that much affect.
What I was also thinking was what would happen if you played a bifiler winding with different turns - one optimized for the initial inductance without magnetic field and one for the case when the magnet is closest to the toroid - for recovering the energy...

[markzpeiverson]

The banned user MileHigh wrote in another forum:

[deletions...]

Stephen:
Please see to it in the other forum that MH's gross ignorance or outright lying is brought to light.  As you pointed out, his stepwise analysis COMPLETELY fails to mention the attraction of the rotor magnets to the stator core as a source of input energy to the rotor.  There are only two explanations for this:

1) he is completely ignorant about the device's construction and operation, in which case, he shouldn't even be commenting on it, OR

2) he is intentionally lying

I don't see any other possibilities, and this certainly confirms why he was banned.
Sorry, I just have little tolerance for these kinds of pin-heads... they are not helping by posting 'suggestions' that are 'so obvious'... suggestions that no doubt have been seen by all numerous times.  There is a reason why those suggestions are not followed promptly, as I pointed out in a post a bit earlier.  Namely, that trying to establish OU with a device that one doesn't even understand yet, is probably going to end up failing.  If the orbo was blatantly OU, then perhaps one would try, but that is not the case here... I think we would all agree that so far, none of the units are OU, and certainly not blatantly OU.  And Steorn is only claiming 3x OU... What the serious and sincere builders realize is that the best chance to determine ACCURATELY whether a device can or cannot achieve OU is to learn all one can about it so the design can be optimized enough to give it a fair chance at success (OU).

These forums are so people can share their knowledge and experiences, and to get CONSTRUCTIVE criticitsm from others, so everyone can move forward faster... people like MH only slow down progress and learning. What a shame...

-Mark

[ramset]

Tinu
May the rest of your life, be the best of your life.

As far as OU  God has been doing that a long  long time, even the bugs know how

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc

Chet

PS
I don't believe in banning,especially not when there is an ignore button

[markzpeiverson]

@ Stefan and all,

MH is out too? I must have missed it!
It’s a shame that MH was banned and I’m not going to talk about the freedom of speech here… It has been done in the past with little effects…

[rest of the diatribe deleted...]

My deepest apologize for going so off-topic and a last question: how do I delete my account? (please reply if there is a button for it - I couldn't find it; or if there is not such a button, please delete my account entirely.)

Best regards and good luck to everyone!
Tinu out.

Tinu,

If you think that MH was such an honest, intelligent, honorable skeptical contributor to this forum, then PLEASE answer the following:

MH showed gross ignorance or outright lying in his post on another forum (copied here with rebuttal by Stephan).  His stepwise analysis COMPLETELY fails to mention the attraction of the rotor magnets to the stator core as a source of input energy to the rotor, which Stephan points out.  There are only two explanations for this:

1) MH is completely ignorant about the device's construction and operation, in which case, he shouldn't even be commenting on it, OR

2) he is intentionally lying

I don't see any other possibilities.  If it was #1, then that would seem to show that MH is not very intelligent, and shoots his mouth off before taking time to understand what he is being skeptical about.  If it was #2, then he is not an honorable individual... which needs no further explanation.  So the question I pose to you is, which one, #1 or #2, do you think it is?
-Mark