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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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wings

Quote from: penno64 on January 07, 2010, 02:18:27 PM
Hi Ossie,

How's that new motor coming along ?

Has anyone been able to replicate JB's setup that required minimal current when the iron pipe was used. Wonder if his coil was merely a very long spool of enamelled wire ?

Also wonder if his bipolar switch is like Ossie's coil switching circuit - though he uses a H/E sensor.

Any thoughts.

Regards, Penno.

my best with minimum
1 fan rotor
1 coil 55.5 ohm
1 reed
2 battery D 3 volt

consumption 12- 15 milliamps 0.045 W? (3x0.015)
HIGH VOLTAGE inductive kick back oscillation when reed open 300V (5v div x 10 attenuation x6 div), you can easy light a neon lamp.




taramop

Hello and Happy New Year to all

I apologize for this certainly horrible English, but Google's results. ;)

I am passionately developing this engine and I think you made an impressive work.

Tinselkoala videos are superb and he implemented some ideas that I had.

The videos also Callanan was superb but since the rotor changed nothing
Ask Callanan: The new rotor is as promising as it is the old?

gravityblock

Could Steorn be using magnetic wire with the toroid being an air core?  The magnetic wire will allow a good attraction force for the rotor magnets while a low pulse of current could saturate this magnetic wire to let the rotor magnets pass the toroid.

Please correct me where I am wrong.  I am only making assumptions and throwing out ideas from what I have observed.

1)  The rotor magnets in the Orbo have quite a bit of distance to the outside wire layer of the toroid, which would diminish the attractive force to the inner core.

2)  The more layers you have on the toroid means even more distance between the core and rotor magnets, which would diminish the attractive force even more.

3)  There is no way the rotor magnets at these distances from the core with a very slight attractive force could possibly help the pulse of current to saturate the core to allow the rotor magnets to pass.  The pulse of current will be doing almost all of the work in this case.

With a magnetic wire, these problems are not an issue even if the rotor magnets have a distance to the outside layer of the toroid since the magnets will be attracted to the very first outside wire layer.  The rotor magnets in this case will help to saturate the magnetic wire, allowing for less input energy for the pulse of current to let the magnets pass by.  This allows the magnets to do most of the work.  If the magnets do more work than the pulse of current, then you have OU.

Any thoughts on this?


GB 
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Staffman

Quote from: gravityblock on January 07, 2010, 07:05:14 PM
Could Steorn be using magnetic wire with the toroid being an air core?  The magnetic wire will allow a good attraction force for the rotor magnets while a low pulse of current could saturate this magnetic wire to let the rotor magnets pass the toroid.

Please correct me where I am wrong.  I am only making assumptions and throwing out ideas from what I have observed.

1)  The rotor magnets in the Orbo have quite a bit of distance to the outside wire layer of the toroid, which would diminish the attractive force to the inner core.

2)  The more layers you have on the toroid means even more distance between the core and rotor magnets, which would diminish the attractive force even more.

3)  There is no way the rotor magnets at these distances from the core with a very slight attractive force could possibly help the pulse of current to saturate the core to allow the rotor magnets to pass.  The pulse of current will be doing almost all of the work in this case.

With a magnetic wire, these problems are not an issue even if the rotor magnets have a distance to the outside layer of the toroid since the magnets will be attracted to the very first outside wire layer.  The rotor magnets in this case will help to saturate the magnetic wire, allowing for less input energy for the pulse of current to let the magnets pass by.  This allows the magnets to do most of the work.  If the magnets do more work than the pulse of current, then you have OU.

Any thoughts on this?


GB

Interesting observation. Ordering some nylon coated steel wire (0.018" Dia). It's crafting wire. I'll try a test when it comes in.

interestedinou

The following is on Steorn's front page.

Next Talk: "Steorn's Orbo Electromagnetic Interaction COP > 1"

Friday 8th Jan 17:00GMT on Live Stream Views 1 & 3 or in person at the Waterways Center