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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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broli

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 15, 2010, 02:04:37 PM
The only reason people are saying to use a capacitor is because it does not hold a lot of energy like a battery. A 350F cap @ 1.3V holds a lot of energy.

That was never my reason though. The only reason I had is that an ultra cap gives you accurate voltage numbers where as batteries the voltage can be questionable as all the bedini motors show. With an ucap there would be no "maybes", just hook it to a 5$ voltage meter and keep it on the live camera.

neptune

Could someone briefly explain the difference between BEMF and CEMF please?

hartiberlin

Quote from: neptune on January 15, 2010, 03:55:52 PM
Could someone briefly explain the difference between BEMF and CEMF please?

Well,
it depends on how you define BackEMF and CounterEMF.

For me BackEMF is the kickback flyback induction
when a current carrying coil is opened.
So this is the inductive kickback voltage spike coming from
the stored magnetic field of the coil.

CounterEMF for me is the voltage generated in a normal DC motor coil
generated due to its generator effect from the coil versus the magnets
movements.
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gravityblock

Quote from: adrians on January 15, 2010, 02:29:20 PM
I'm curious what Sean means when he mentions that the use of a torroid is irrelevant in http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=62319&page=1#Item_14. Anyone have an explanation?

Cheers,
Adrian

Any one who is serious about this will read the below link.  It's about the theory on the Adams motor.  They talk about a reverse time flow in current just like Sean's theory on the "time frame" manipulation.

Toroid is not required,  http://members.fortunecity.com/freeenergy2000/adamsmotor.htm

This reverse time flow in current is running backwards from the coil to the battery.

The diameter of your magnet is extremely important relative to your coil.  You want the pulse to begin as soon as the very edge of your magnets line up at TDC and want the pulse to end at the very edge of the magnets past top dead center.

After the end of the pulse, the magnets will be attracted to the core but will have enough momentum to escape and will generate a reverse time flow of current from the coil to the battery assuming you have a recovery circuit. This is not BEMF.  This is a reverse time EMF.  Don't believe me then read the above link on the Adams motor, then compare it to Sean's statement about the "time frames" and then take a look at broli's thread on an energy gain by induction change, http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8576.msg222836#msg222836

My system will now run both CW and CCW with the same polarity input while the dual magnets being like poles and the coil horizontal.  I assume opposite poles will make it run in the same direction when reversing the input polarity.  I will be working on the recovery circuit.

Please note.  It's not recovery BEMF.  It will be recovery a reverse time flow EMF generated in the coils by the magnets after the pulse (this is the generator part where Steorn is using the generator coils for and is not necessary with a non metglas core).  This is the energy gain in induction.

This is not my Theory AirStriker and it is supported by quite a few people.  Steorn has his setup the way he does trying to patent the device and to try to get around what is already open-sourced or patented.

GB
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PaulLowrance

Quote from: broli on January 15, 2010, 03:26:02 PM
That was never my reason though. The only reason I had is that an ultra cap gives you accurate voltage numbers where as batteries the voltage can be questionable as all the bedini motors show. With an ucap there would be no "maybes", just hook it to a 5$ voltage meter and keep it on the live camera.

It would be interesting to do a side by side comparison of a 650 farad ultracap vs. a 650mAh rechargeable battery. I know from my detailed data logging of the bcap0650 (650 farads) that it has a crazy amount of dielectric absorption. That's also seen in electrolytic capacitors. So it's not really true that capacitors voltage is an accurate representation of anything until the capacitor has had a long time to rest. For the bcap0650, we're talking about up to ~ 1/2 day of rest time before you can accurately use the voltage as something meaningful.

Good points you bring up though.  :)