STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[markzpeiverson]

Time scale, vertical, is 10 mA per division.

Say what??? Me thinks you've been dipping into that Tillamook Dew a wee too much! 
Time scale is on the HORIZONTAL axis, and it is not milliamps (mA).  Go sleep it off!  LoL
-Mark

[captainpecan]

Have to agree with GB, and coming from a scientific backround, the initial goal should be an exact replication.  Once that is achieved, then begin trying variations... 

It should be painfully obvious that the positioning of a coil by a millimeter one way or the other could decide success or failure... and when you've got 10s of millimeters as a possible position, the chances for INCORRECT positioning, and thus FAILURE, are far greater than getting it right.  This begs an exact replication first to verify operation, and then you can 'get creatve'...
-Mark

I completely agree.  But there is a little problem with an EXACT replication.  There is NO FRIGGIN INFO!!!  STEORN, come on now, throw us a bone here.  We do not know the core material for sure, the number of turns, the polarity of the magnets, the current draw, the gap between the magnets and coils, and we do not even know for sure if it works even after we get a PERFECT replication.  We also have not been told whether or not the device they use for testing, with the coils laid horizontal, even shows the same COP>1 than the other design.  We also do not know what the scope shot looks like on an orbo with vertical coils, because they have neglected to show any tests at all with that version except let us watch it spin.  Since we do not know if the horizontal core device shows OU, we are guessing on magnet strength also.  The magnets they tested the strength of, were not even part of either of their original demo's.  They were part of a demo built to show the inductance change.

Therefore, it is IMPOSSIBLE to make an exact replication without some info.  We can make a device that looks like an orbo, and acts like an orbo...  but even if we got it right on accident, we wouldn't even know if it was an orbo, or a crap load of assumptions thrown into a big pile that happened to work.

But, we keep trying anyway...  And that leaves most of us simply trying to replicate the orbo "effect", instead of replicating the orbo itself.  Because it's the only thing we really seem to have info on. So even though everyone is drifting different directions, I can't really blame them.

[Xaverius]

My understanding is that specifications, data and pertinent info will be issued with registrations/licenses a week from now:  February 1, 2010.

[k4zep]

Well, don't count us all out yet.  And yes, some of us have been watching every single theory that has been popped out here.  Just because we don't all reply to it, does not mean we are ignoring it.  Trust me, I've been following all your comments, and trying to learn more about each effect, and move along as best I can.  Keep it coming, just don't get to frustrated.  The search for free energy is not an easy one without headaches.

I don't like siding with people who seem to just argue about everything, but I must say, just because they used a 10 amp hr battery, does not mean they are using that much current at all.  For all we know, they are using 5ma of current, and just simply wanted a battery that could run their orbo for days easily if it did not charge as planned.  You must realize, after the public humiliation Steorn went through last time, I'm quite sure they were planning on avoiding showing a motor that died after 1 hour of operation if it did not work as planned.  I personally think the 10 amp hr battery was just a form of insurance for them.

I have not posted much about my replications, for a couple reasons.  My digital camcorder shot craps so have not been able to shoot video, although I think I found a camera that will work okay now.  Also, my replications have quite frankly not shown anything different than the others yet, so nothing good to post about them.  My current replication is not done yet but is as exact as I am able to do so far to replicating Orbo.  Here's a couple photo's just to show I am working on the dual magnet version and the vertical toroidal coils.  It's obviously not done yet, and I do not even have the uprights attached yet or all the magnets installed.  But I just wanted to show the direction my replication is taking.  Hopefully I will at least get enough time to get it running in a day or so.

Thanks CP,

Just venting my frustration helps in the thinking process.  After I sent the message, I realized what I was asking of the cores and
the flaws in my testing procedure and went to bed to sleep on it.  I now am just going to match cores with no field (max inductance) and go for it. 

The dynamics of the switching process when the core is partially/mostly saturated with an additional pulse which would push further towards saturation is beyond my abilities to measure at this time. There must be a way to see/measure that resultant viscous pulse in the dynamic state so that we may quantitate it for verification of this process.....

You keep up your good work and thoughts process.  The deeper we get into this device, the larger the room of uncertainty until we get a handle on the basic "Kernel" of how this operates.  Until someone demonstrates OU (Steorn included) this is all just a neat theory!

Ben

[Jimboot]

Hi all I was hoping you could help me. I'm trying to get my circuit working with a UGN3503 sensor. It's based on PL circuit and Ossie with recc on how to power the 6V Hall sensor. The I am measuring a low of 1V across the sensor when activated. I thought it should go to 0. Across the coils I am measuring around 1 - 2 volts With drops of around 0.25  of a volt when using the sensor. Or my reed switch I was getting much higher voltages and drops at the coil. Any help appreciated.