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[gravityblock]

PL, let's stop the arguing, debating, and nitpicking.  I don't really care about the COP measurements even if they are correct and I gave you my reasons for this.  Maybe you do care about COP measurements and that is fine, but in my view it is falling short until you have a self-runner.  All I care about is a self runner.  Having a COP > 1 in "your tiny orbo replication" could be just as meaningless as a heat pump with a COP >1 if they can't self-run.

Self-run it, then you'll have my attention.  I'm not trying to be difficult, this is just how I see things and maybe you see things differently.  In the end, it comes down to a self-runner producing more out than in.


GB

[gravityblock]

And FYI, the "tiny orbo replication" is not about pumping hot air from a heated chamber to get some high COP measurements. Call it whatever you want. Personally I've used COP definition in this community because Tom Bearden uses it, but I have no problems using "efficiency" instead.

That whole post I made about the heat pump came directly from one of Tom Bearden's articles and he used both COP and "efficiency" in his analogy of the heat pump.  Go argue with him.  I used his analogy because it makes sense.  Obviously you missed the point.

[PaulLowrance]

GB, I seriously doubt you're fooling any legit people her. It's just weird that you give praise to posts that say they're machine has ran on a battery for X amount of time, while throwing stones at COP>1 or efficiency>100% measurements. btw, I don't need to go argue with Tom Bearden because he's not discouraging people from conducting COP or efficiency measurements, so please stop trying to pass it on to other people.

To legit researchers: COP or efficiency measurements reveals if there's excess energy. As you make changes to your device, and you can tell improvements by the efficiency. Heaven forbid these people here would not want you to do that, lol. You'll be hard pressed to find efficiency or COP measurements at this entire forum. And from there you can improve the design to make a self-runner; e.g., thicker wire, better material, etc.

[dradak1]

Paul & GB - can you guys please stop wasting your energy on finger-pointing. My understanding is that we are here to try to help each-other not to "out-smart" (what is childish BTW).

Here is interesting fact from zeitgeist:

"The fact is, when a scientist tells you something is possible, he is likely correct. However, when he
states something is impossible, he is likely wrong. Science and technology have continued to defy
prior assumptions of possibility, and will continue to do so. It can safely be assumed that whatever
the future holds from a technological standpoint, it will likely seem impossible and “ridiculous” from
the standpoint of today’s understandings and methods."

and

"We have gone from smoke signals to the telephone to electronic mail sent at near the speed of light. Everything that has once been considered impossible has gradually become possible. The Wright Brothers were told by “experts” that it was impossible to fly…years ago people who talked of traveling to the moon were dismissed and labeled as “Mooniacs”. To assume something is ‘impossible’ in this world is a failure of creativity."

Thanks,

Dragan   

[PaulLowrance]

"Tiny orbo replication" update
http://globalfreeenergy.info/2010/01/27/tiny-orbo-replication-update/

I might be scraping up some pennies today to buy an Enermax Marathon PC fan because they claim to have frictionless magnetic levitation bearings inside.