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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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woopy

morning jb

yes nice shot, but could you make the shot showing the volt div for or info.

i think you have almost the same trace (see picture 1) that the one i got in my earlier Ossbo config. That is a very long pulse exceeding the generative energy.

As Ossie said and showed we have to confine the pulse energy INSIDE the  AC generative energy. That's why the timing is fondamental    it seams to be micrometric. (probably the same for Orbo machine, thanks Tesla for your  excell sheet)

I am approaching this "perfect" curve but still not enough  my pulse energy is on the left boarder line and something outside .

picture 2 3 4 shows the progress of the curve to the optimal 

i hope to approach the goal with finer diodes and better timing and correct resistors

.hope it helps

Laurent







robbie47

@ Ossie, Jimboot, Woopy and other Ossie motor enthousiast:
I created a new 'Ossie motor' thread to deal with findings, discussions, results etc. on this great concept.

The new thread is here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8731.new#new

Could you please start using this thread and leave this one dedicated to Steorns Orbo technology?

Many thanks, and please continue on this great stuff.

teslaalset


Omega_0

Quote from: teslaalset on February 01, 2010, 05:45:35 PM
Here's the Excel file attached.
Simulation of the power and integral of the power graphs are also attached below.

What I think is happening is:
1) the coil is powered for a very short period
2) next, the coil is shortened by the switch
3) next, the switch is opened, with some remaining energy still in the coil
4) a large spike is caused by opening of the switch while energy is still in the coil
5) area B is started. I still don't know what is happening here. probably necessary for degausing the toroid.

@teslaalset

Thanks a lot for the excel work. It is very close.
I have added some more data into your excel file (see sheets 2 & 3 of attached file)

I could get the output perfectly right. Its identical to their scope trace.

I'm close to their input trace (sheet 3), the purple area (kickback region) is a problem. We need more accurate values there. Perhaps you can improve it. (Or anyone else here...) I will add the ringing part too in some more time.

Plz remember that this is dummy data, just to understand the shapes of voltages and currents. This will help in replications.
I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

teslaalset

Quote from: Omega_0 on February 02, 2010, 04:29:41 AM
@teslaalset

Thanks a lot for the excel work. It is very close.
I have added some more data into your excel file (see sheets 2 & 3 of attached file)

I could get the output perfectly right. Its identical to their scope trace.

I'm close to their input trace (sheet 3), the purple area (kickback region) is a problem. We need more accurate values there. Perhaps you can improve it. (Or anyone else here...) I will add the ringing part too in some more time.

Plz remember that this is dummy data, just to understand the shapes of voltages and currents. This will help in replications.

Hi Omega_O
Great additions. Thanks for that.

I'll study it tonight (I am doing my dayjob right now, timezone GMT+1).
I agree with you, this will help in a very nice way to reverse engineer the input signals.

@ Gravityblock and @Paullawrence.
I invite you to help us out with your views on the MetGlas and FineGlas toroidal behavior and the analysis done here? Your knowledge and insights could help a lot to do the proper reverse engineering.
Thanks!