STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[gravityblock]

It's about reducing the CEMF to near 0.  Take a look at my list on reducing the CEMF to near 0 and you will see why there is high precision and hard disc drive tolerances in order to achieve this.  The replication video was all about CEMF.  This is the reason why nobody has successfully replicated the Orbo, because they have CEMF. 

Anything that is in opposition to the pulse and RPM is reducing the OU effect.  Even though the voltage and current remains constant due to no CEMF when there is a load, the load is slowing the RPM which is reducing the efficiency.  Sean has said the efficiency increases with the RPM's.  Torque can be increased with the proper design so it can carry a load while maintaining a higher RPM so the efficiency stays near the maximum.

If you don't follow the list, then you're just wasting your time.  There is nothing magical about the Orbo.  The concept is really simple, reduce the CEMF to near 0.  Build it with precision and accuracy.

If we don't understand the elementary truths and the basics, then how can we move on to more complex truths.  We should be eating meat by now instead of still drinking milk.

Build the SOB with precision and accuracy.  We have all of the information we need.  If it doesn't work, then try a different core material.....although I believe there will be many different types of core material that will work.  Some will perform better than others.

We need to be focusing on our replications instead of trying to figure out the mystery.  There is no mystery once you understand the concept and principals the Orbo is based on.  After saying all of this, there is nothing more to say other than our progress on the replication attempts and discussions on tips and tricks on achieving the tight tolerances without having the expensive equipment. 

I believe Bruce provided an excellent example on how to align the dual magnets with the coils by adjusting the PVC pipe up and down by turning it.  We need more examples like this.  Everything needs to be adjustable so it can be tuned and tweaked easily.   


GB

[gravityblock]

@Bruce:

At 1,000,000 permeability for the metglas core, it will take a lot of volts and amps to saturate it.  That baby can hold a lot of flux before it even starts to saturate and lose attractiveness.

Steorn is able to do it with 12 volts while drawing around 1 amp (according to one of the demo talks).  This is 12 watts.

The Orbo on display has a 1.2 volt battery with 10 amps which is also 12 watts.  You're at 10 watts.  I would try to increase your watts to around 12 and see what happens.

What has me puzzled is you have the metglas core almost completely wrapped and the coils in the Orbo is just barely wrapped.  This may suggest the metglas isn't the core Steorn is using.  We need to eliminate the other possible reasons you mentioned before drawing any definite conclusion though.

PL, I don't want to hear how the amps are more important in saturating the core than the voltage.  I can already hear you.


GB

[gotoluc]

Hi everyone,

just completed winding my first Toroid coil to start testing the Orbo concept.

I wound my coil in a special way and it seems to be giving some promising results.

Have a look at my GOBO test 3 video which is truly my first Toroid test. Let me know what you think.

Link to video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O6XjpdYxfs

Luc

[gravityblock]

Bruce, I noticed Naudin uses a Booster coil approach.  I wonder which would be best?

http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/images/boostedcoil.jpg

Bill

I think Steorn used a Booster coil approach also.  I'm attaching a photo courtesy of PL that he posted way back in this thread of a coil in the Orbo Demo.

The first photo is an enhanced image that was sharpened, color adjustments, and flipped horizontal in order to see the different layers better.  The second photo is the original PL posted.  It is very clear in the enhanced image there are at least 2 layers while each layer has a different wire thickness (Pay careful attention to how some of the turns in the wire are raised much higher than the turns next to them).  Compare the enhanced image to Naudin's Booster Coil and you will see the similarities, http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/images/boostedcoil.jpg

GB

[gravityblock]

Here's a patent from Steorn:  http://www.google.com/patents?printsec=abstract&zoom=4&pg=PA3&id=1dOyAAAAEBAJ#v=onepage&q=&f=false

US2009/0009157 A1 : SYSTEM AND METHOD FOR MEASURING ENERGY IN MAGNETIC INTERACTIONS:  An apparatus and method is provided for measuring magnetic force response time due to the magnetic viscosity of materials and for measuring total energy exchanged due to relative motion of magnetic materials. Voltage and current versus time through an electromagnet is measured and recorded....

Inventors: Sean David McCarthy, Alan Simpson, Martin Flood, Maxime Sorin

The question I have is why do they need to measure the magnetic force response time due to the magnetic viscosity of materials and for measuring total energy exchanged due to relative motion of magnetic materials if they know what type of cores work? 

Is it possible that only a small percentage of the same type of core material or magnets have the effect?  If this is the case, then the measuring device in this patent needs to be replicated before we can replicate the Orbo.  This is again inline with the tight hard disc drive tolerances and could be the main reason why they're looking for developers and manufactures so that 100% of the materials that role off the production line will work instead of a small percentage.

The filing date of this patent was: Jul 2, 2008 and the publishing date was Jan 8, 2009.  I am sure they already knew what the best performing core material was prior to Jul 2. 2008, so why a need to patent this measuring device?  The only reason is if a small percentage of the same type of core material has the effect.  Tom Bearden suggested this also with his MEG device.  This patent was brought to my attention on Naudin's website.  Naudin is way ahead of everyone here (Take his Booster Coil and all of the information on his site seriously).  From what I can tell he's already replicated the measuring device mentioned in this patent.  Makes me wonder why he's looking at Nanoperm now. 

I recommend everyone to read this patent more than one time.  I only had enough time to skim through it so far.  I also recommend everyone to read and follow every link on this page, http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/indexen.htm


GB