STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[gravityblock]

Perfect. We have a way to record a tape (store magnetic field on it) in a way that it's reflecting in a linear way any data we want to store on it. But what for God's sake does it have to do with ORBO ?? We don't want to store any data on our toroids ;] It's not meant to play music It's meant to do some work ;]
No offence, I just simply don't get it. You teach me -> I like you

Below is a quote from a book on magnetic tape drives on page 104, http://books.google.com/books?id=rNifWsBxnWkC&pg=PA104&lpg=PA104&dq=demagnetization+M-H+Curve&source=bl&ots=iQAjF9NziI&sig=rkfQdDk7cwt0cvslqLNNNtArI7o&hl=en&ei=Jjl6S8z3K4TINYaY2bQH&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CCoQ6AEwCTgU#v=onepage&q=demagnetization%20M-H%20Curve&f=false

Finally, it may be noted that the reading process in a recorder, is in every way, analogous to the process occurring in any other electrical generator or dynamo where permanent magnets move past a pole structure bearing output coils.  It follows that the same consideration of the recoil energy available within the M-H loops, which are used in discussing the maximum power output of generators apply equally well to magnetic recording.

Likewise, the recording process is analogous to the process occurring in an electrical motor, such as the Orbo. As you can see, it has everything to do with the Orbo.  The Orbo may be using both the read and recording process of a tape drive along with demagnetizing during the interactions between the dual magnets and the toroid.

A tape drive is recording and playing back the fluctuations of the magnetic field due to the sound on the recording tape.  In the Orbo, the fluctuations of the magnetic field is due to the dual magnets approaching and departing from TDC and it also affects the magnetization of the core material just like the sound.

Sean said, "it's not an engineering problem, but a problem with the tape drives".  If we know what the problem is with the tape drives, then we can re-engineer the tape drives so there are no problems.  The Orbo is a re-engineered tape drive based on controlling the M-H position of the materials so that the magnetic interactions are time variant which allows you to control the response time of the magnetic materials (magnetic viscosity).  If you can't find a connection between the tape drives and the Orbo, then the words escape me to show you otherwise.

GB

[PaulLowrance]

Properly documenting is the first step to protecting IP. This forum does *not* qualify as prior art. Why doesn't anyone here tell you that.

[dirt diggler]

One open sources their work by protecting it with a patent. Forums, blogs, and wikies used to hold weight in the court of law, but no longer. I provided the references for this some time ago. That includes a provisional patent. There are a lot of companies that qualify as prior-art for a provisional patent.

I would be very cautious of anyone who tells you not to get a patent.

Paul, there is no person or company that exists in the world that could EVER defend a patent on a working/marketable free energy device.
The amount of money required to defend against the MILLIONS if not BILLIONS of patent infringements would make the U/S bail out money look like pocket change.
I don't know how much money you have, maybe you could afford to defend the first infringement for a million or two, but what about all the rest?
Patents are fine if the invention is really only something that a limited few companies would be interested in, such as a new latch system on a garbage bin, or a new kind of stapler. 
   There is no way to stop the immense rush of companies that would be building "your" ou device.  Patent = time and money lost.

[gravityblock]

I admire your persistence. But having the same M-H curve, for me, doesn't say that the cores and magnetic tapes. It just says that whoever made that module was looking at a similar graphic to the one in the other textbook.

You are correct.  The M-H loops shown by Steorn and the magnetic recording tape is a textbook example only.  This doesn't change the fact that the Orbo effect is based on controlling the M-H position of the materials during their interaction.  I have said many times that this does not mean the core materials must be a recording tape.  Read my next post.  I will talk about returning the core material back to it's virginal state where both the "M" and the "H" are 0.  I will also talk about resonance of the system.

GB

[PaulLowrance]

Paul, there is no person or company that exists in the world that could EVER defend a patent on a working/marketable free energy device.
The amount of money required to defend against the MILLIONS if not BILLIONS of patent infringements would make the U/S bail out money look like pocket change. I don't know how much money you have, maybe you could afford to defend the first infringement for a million or two, but what about all the rest?

Don't tell that to Steorn. Anyhow, if you have a good case then a lawyer doesn't need your money. I know several people who didn't have a dime, but a lawyer took their case. A patent makes a good case.

Patent = time and money lost.

A provisional patent would cost me ~ $100, and lasts a year, which should be far long enough for the company to get started.


Posting their inventions at this forum holds no weight in the modern court. Those days are gone. WikiPedia used to hold weight, but not any longer. There are a lot of companies that specialize in *properly* publishing prior-art that's far less than $200.


Furthermore, wealthy patent vultures can indeed take some machine posted at this forum and patent it, and you just lost it.  These days it takes a lot of evidence to prove it's yours, such as from a lot of sales.