STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[Omnibus]

The bad manner of their showing results is that they rely on people being competent and able to grasp sooner what they're intending  to get across. It's true also that they withhold details of the experiment and leave the observer guessing. That's not how scientists behave but Steorn always insist they are a business and not a scientific organization. Once, however, one understands what they're doing it becomes clear that it's a very clever and definitive experiment. One good thing about it is that it makes calorimetry redundant. Like I said, that methodology, using those high-end instruments should be applied to everything else that has been around for decades and is still a subject of controversy. This methodology will bring closure to that. Too bad hardly anybody in the field of OU is in possession of such sophisticated instruments which will allow to obtain conclusive results, as in the case of eOrbo.

[freeorbo]

I have done quite a bit of this flux path controlling with the Orbonbon and some new tests. But it seems to take at least as much to pulse the toroid as the output ever gets. Maybe Im just not there yet.
It seems the amount of energy it takes to change the flux path enough to cause, things to happen elsewhere, just adds up to as much as it would take to do it another way.

Hey Mag,s don't discount yourself, I've been watching all of your videos, you actually made the S2Gen way before Naudin did. Orbonbon seems to work the same way.

As far as input/output, you are overunity, you're jsut measuring it incorrectly.

Overunity doesn't have to mean that you're getting as much total out as your putting in. It means you measure all of the current through the entirety of the circuit, which is not an easy thing to do(!), and measure all of the energy from your output (also not easy, but easier since you can apply a load to measure dissapation), and if the latter is larger, you're over unity.

I can tell from your videos that you have a good understanding of electronic theory and you have a good mastery of your components, you just may be missing how waesome of a thing you've made.

Here's a question for you: How much current is escaping for your input system? Not how much input is your power supply offering, but how much energy is being converted out of the system? Which is to say, if you can it off of a fresh set of batteries, how long would it run? You could measure that by running it for a while and then testing the batteries. Just measuring the current across the coil doesn't show us anything. It just shows how much current is in the coil at that second.

You could put your multimeter on either terminal of a battery and get a reading, but we wouldn't say that that circuit is using 3 watts of energy, right? There may be 3 watts flowing through the system, but we're not expending it, it's just circling.

You've got a lot of energy circling through your input system, but very very very little of it is actually leaving the system; only what's lost to heat in the components. It's not doing anything, just circling.

Then, measure all of the energy coming out of your pickup. I bet you're overunity by a lot and don't even realize it. You could be trickling it back into a battery and keeping that battery charged.

[freeorbo]

Wonder if someone can point me to a place in the  or somewhere in New England where they'd have DPO 7104? This type of equipment has to be found urgently so that the proper replication can be vigorously pursued.

I was thinking of taking a class at the local technical college to get access to something similar.

[hartiberlin]

All the Steorn stuff is based on the hypothesis that R*I² represents the losses, R being the coil resistance and I the current in the circuit, i.e. he is neglecting the work done by the coil current to change the electron spin alignment. This energy, like every consumed energy, is seen from the pulse generator as a current in a resistance R' possibly in parallel with R (thus derivating a part of I). It follows that Steorn's approximation is likely an over-estimation of the losses and an under-estimation of the useful energy.

Hmm,
this could be easily tested with a well done calorimetric test.

Just let us see, how much heat the coil put out in a certain time frame and compare it to the
electrical energy input in this time frame.

2. I am still wondering, that no one of the replicators is using the idea
of extracting the inductive BackEMF as Ben (user K4ZEP) said in his video, where he showed
the blinking LED.
As we also gain electrical energy by the delta muR factor during the switching
and passing of the rotor, you only need to build it big enough to overcome
the losses and you will get a real good electrical output this way, which should
be much higher than the energy used to drive the coils.


Regards, Stefan.

[Magluvin]

freeorbo   =]

Thanks for the good words. You may be right. I may be wrong and missing a lot. Heck, I do know some stuff, but at times when I see some here with pages of algorithms, I can feel quite small at times. But I keep absorbing more as I go.
I just posted a pic of a different way of doing the orbon on the Solid State Orbo thread. But it has to pulse 2 toroids alternatively to get each half of the AC cycle. But it may have better balance in changing the fields at the center coil. It is simple and complete.
I just had to give my self a break from winding toroids. I have wound many and cut many to start over. Unwrapping
is not as tedious as new winding, but time is a constraint to get to the next level.
As for current looping, power is being expelled. If we have current flowing through the toroid from a battery, and none going back to the battery, that power is gone, till it is replaced, reconverted or captured. Which brings me to my next subject.
Hart
I am going to post a vid tonight showing captured bemf from the toroid of the orbon and the output of the pickup lighting 2 separate light bulbs on each output, and neither bulb can be lit as bright on the 5v input alone.
Maybe I have it wrong, but if the toroids show no cemf, why do I have it?  Is it because my Tcoil is not saturating the core? Or is all they are saying is the Tcoil is not affected  by the rotor mags as in producing current in the Tcoil.?
I may have to do 2 vids, one with the separate outputs, and one with the 2 outputs in series and parallel. But the separate capture outputs gives me more total output, while not decreasing the pickup output as we capture bemf from the Tcoil. Actually I think I remember the bemf capture being more out than the pickup, we will see.
Mags