STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[exnihiloest]

The opposite is true: "I believe there is no OU therefore there is no OU" and to "prove"
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The opposite is inconsistant: wrong method, you are reversing the burden of proof.
It is not to the skeptics to prove there is no OU in Steorn device (nevertheless I gave many elements to conclude there is no OU).
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof
"This burden of proof is often asymmetrical and typically falls more heavily on the party that makes either an ontologically positive claim, or makes a claim more "extraordinary", that is farther removed from conventionally accepted facts"
Steorn claims OU, you too, but both of you failed to give the evidence.

[LarryC]

Actually, I was hoping to help them understand. My next calculation for Z would be for an RCL circuit and use V^2/Z. This is a valid formula stated in many text books so they could not credibly argue against it use.

The observed amperage increase is due to high frequency parasitic capacitance.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_capacitance
' For example, an inductor often acts as though it includes a parallel capacitor, because of its closely spaced windings. When a potential difference exists across the coil, wires lying adjacent to each other at different potentials are affected by each others electric field. They act like the plates of a capacitor, and store charge. Any change in the voltage across the coil requires extra current to charge and discharge these small 'capacitors'. When the voltage doesn't change very quickly, as in low frequency circuits, the extra current is usually negligible, but when the voltage is changing quickly the extra current is large and can dominate the operation of the circuit.'

Note the bold areas.


The first picture below shows the effect of current in a capacitance circuit.

The second picture the effect of frequency in an RC circuit.

The simple reason that Omnibus showed more Omni OU in the air core, then the steel core is because the inductance goes from Henries to low Mili Henries. The parasitic capacitance can easily dominate.

That's all I got, as I'm wasting to much time trying to help.

Of course, Omnibus will say gibberish.

Broli will 


Regards, Larry

[Omnibus]

The opposite is inconsistant: wrong method, you are reversing the burden of proof.
It is not to the skeptics to prove there is no OU in Steorn device (nevertheless I gave many elements to conclude there is no OU).
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof
"This burden of proof is often asymmetrical and typically falls more heavily on the party that makes either an ontologically positive claim, or makes a claim more "extraordinary", that is farther removed from conventionally accepted facts"
Steorn claims OU, you too, but both of you failed to give the evidence.

You don't know what you're talking about so that's not even the opposite. Yours is pure nonsense and you'd do better not to interrupt the discussion with it. Trolls like you and @LarryC are the least needed in this exchange.

[Omnibus]

Actually, I was hoping to help them understand. My next calculation for Z would be for an RCL circuit and use V^2/Z. This is a valid formula stated in many text books so they could not credibly argue against it use.

The observed amperage increase is due to high frequency parasitic capacitance.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_capacitance
' For example, an inductor often acts as though it includes a parallel capacitor, because of its closely spaced windings. When a potential difference exists across the coil, wires lying adjacent to each other at different potentials are affected by each others electric field. They act like the plates of a capacitor, and store charge. Any change in the voltage across the coil requires extra current to charge and discharge these small 'capacitors'. When the voltage doesn't change very quickly, as in low frequency circuits, the extra current is usually negligible, but when the voltage is changing quickly the extra current is large and can dominate the operation of the circuit.'

Note the bold areas.


The first picture below shows the effect of current in a capacitance circuit.

The second picture the effect of frequency in an RC circuit.

The simple reason that Omnibus showed more Omni OU in the air core, then the steel core is because the inductance goes from Henries to low Mili Henries. The parasitic capacitance can easily dominate.

That's all I got, as I'm wasting to much time trying to help.

Of course, Omnibus will say gibberish.

Broli will 


Regards, Larry

This is mindless quoting out of context whatever. This problem has been addressed already and the only thing that remains is for you to understand it and not continue to clutter the thread with gibberish.

[exnihiloest]

You don't know what you're talking about so that's not even the opposite. Yours is pure nonsense and you'd do better not to interrupt the discussion with it. Trolls like you and @LarryC are the least needed in this exchange.

Your reply is as your OU claims, in accord to the great principle:

"I say it therefore it is the truth"
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