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[lumen]

The design was to show a simple OU device. Using a capacitor makes it much more complicated.
Now you will need something to prevent the capacitor from overcharging or it will run for about 45 seconds before it winds up and the capacitor explodes and everyone is running around thinking "I cant breathe with that smell" and others are thinking "O-my gawd, I got stuff in my eyes and it burns" and people get trampled and cut from the broken glass as they stampede through the door.

Or they could probably add a zener diode to regulate the voltage.

[k4zep]

This is a long post and I hope it is a good read.  Permeability is the magnetic conductivity of a material.  A higher permeable core will have a greater attraction for the rotor magnets than a low permeable core (I hope I got this right).

Now let's take a look at the "Expanding Field Model".  Let's assume a new flux-line begins as an infinitesimal small loop around the primary-wire. Since loops can not overlap or cross, this new loop must physically displace pre-existing loops outward when it is created.  Therefore magnetic fields must expand from, or contract to, the source wire.  This expanding field method is the only way that a magnetic field can expand (or contract) without violating Ampere’s Circuital Law.

The permeability of the core affects the number of flux lines that will pass into the space contained by the secondary when the primary current increases.  It is not hard to see that with increased core permeability, more flux-lines pass into the interior of the secondary for any given increase in primary current.

I hope this is helpful in replicating a Lenz free motor or even a motionless OU Generator.


GB

Thanks GB, finally some meat in the noise!!  It will be interesting to hear their description of their "Lenz-less" GENERATOR as this is the crux of the question.  An efficient motor as shown, is helpful but the generator is most important.

Ben

[k4zep]

The design was to show a simple OU device. Using a capacitor makes it much more complicated.
Now you will need something to prevent the capacitor from overcharging or it will run for about 45 seconds before it winds up and the capacitor explodes and everyone is running around thinking "I cant breathe with that smell" and others are thinking "O-my gawd, I got stuff in my eyes and it burns" and people get trampled and cut from the broken glass as they stampede through the door.

Or they could probably add a zener diode to regulate the voltage.

I would pay money to see that happen!! Actually just pay to see voltage increase on cap till it hit zener voltage and on and on and on!
Ben

[The Observer]

Gravity,

You state...

Permeability is the magnetic conductivity of a material. 
A higher permeable core will have a greater attraction for the rotor magnets
than a low permeable core (I hope I got this right).

You did get this right... and wrong.

Let me explain.

The whole magnetic conductivity thing is either bullshit or a poor description of what is happening.

               A piece of Ferro has a two important properties,

               1. It's Magnetic Coercivity which relates to how easily the dipoles in Ferro turn.
                     (note... dipoles are ferro atoms with unmatched electrons in outer shell... mini coil)

                    A Magnet has a High Coercivity.. once those baby's are in place they stay there.
                    A Piece of Iron has Low Coercivity... the dipoles turn easily and effortlessly.

               2. It's Magnetic Permeability... which relates to the density of atoms and their magnetic power.
                   
                    A piece of Iron turns into a Magnet in the presence of another magnetic field !!!
                    (note... domains of atoms previously "randomly" oriented, now all point in the same direction)

                    For Example... A coil around a piece of Iron has 5000 times the magnetic field than without Iron.
                         Therefore the Magnetic Permeability of Iron is 5000. !

There is nothing being conducted...the alleged magnetic field that gets conducted... the coil's,
                                                                                                                                                              actually gets amplified !!!           

I started a thread on this subject entitled     Magnetic Permeabilty, Why isn't anyone tallking about this !!!!
       
                    I hope you check it out...          http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4831.0

Regards,
              The Observer

[markdansie]

Omnibus is right and this shows,
that Mark is not qualified enough in EE to see this.

He should quit his job going around the world for his.

Anybody who hires Mark for this job wastes his money.

I never prented I was qualified but if your read carefully I employ people on contracts who are including Physisists, engineers or what ever the skill set is requiried on the job. I do have expertise in Hydrogen and to a lesser degree in magnetic motors. The point is I do save people in some cases million of dollars by not investing in technology that cannot live up to false claims. Some of these technologies have even had high level engineering certification.
Sadly as mentioned most turn out to be smoke and mirrors run by con men or self deluded individulas. Sometimes they disapeer (normally just before the arrest warrent is issued) or they get tied up in litigation.
I gather you are the new Sterling Allen. I have a simple question..of all the threads that have started here over the years..How many have claimed your overunity prize?
Sadly I have seen people invest their life savings into these snake oil salesmen that profess overunity. So Stephan...put your money where your mouth here or rather than character assinate me tell people here and now if you are so sure to invest in Steorn. Actually the more I get character assisinated the more work I tend to get offered which is great.
There is howver a body of people and work that is working on many aspects of alternative energy production and in some case possible overunity. They rarely visist forums like these.
I also ask how much assistance have you ever given to people in your own forum? I have financially supported some or provided resources or personel with qualifications to help them along. There have even been testimonials in your forum to that effect.
Up until now I have had a lot of respect for you in providing this forum and allowing both sides of the argument to be heard. It is now sad you are blinded or prejudiced by your own belief system or desperation to want to believe. Do me a favour...list every new thread and claim that was made this year re overunity in 2009 and then a one sentance outcome. Then rank them on how many people they succed in (Mylow would rank high) We both know that exercise will result in over 99% leading nowhere.
Finally , there are many good people here, and on going projects (Winsonali for one). As far as Steorn goes....con men. many other more qualified people than me have also reached the same conclusion.
PS for every one topic that hits these forums I can assure you there is 10 times more out there happenning both legitimately or non. I could post some video's of devices that would have you  ttally convinced and fooled. I remeber one this year that after we busted the inventor we could not figure it out how he did the con on a particular video and he kindly confessed and showed us. he then drove of into the sunset with his new mercedes and a few hundred thousand dollars of investors money and still being sort by police. Did the people who hired me (and my team) waste their money...no they saved millions.
I guess there is a role for everyone. perhaps I found mine. So Stephan...how much are you willing to invest in Steorn? Mark