STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[broli]

The way I see it, in the eOrbo, the electrical input to the toroids does NOT drive the rotation of the rotor in any direct way.  Yet the rotor will ACCELERATE.  If F=ma holds true (giggling to myself now...), then we are witnessing a Force, F, causing this acceleration.  And that force is NOT due to the input electrical energy being used to switch the toroids!

I believe the electrical input energy used to switch the toroids is 100% conserved.  You can try to recover it if you like.  But whatever you do not recover is lost in the system as HEAT.  That conversion of electrical energy to heat should be 100% efficient by CoE (again, lol).

The fact that the rotor spins at all is the evidence of OU.  Unless anyone can prove that some of the electrical input energy to the coils is directly causing the force that creates acceleration of the rotors.  If input energy and rotation are completely separate, then it must be OU.

Does the electrical input directly cause the rotors to accelerate?  If so, that relationship should be measureable.  So far, I see a lot of evidence that there is no such relationship.

This is the exact same thing I started to believe. The mechanical motion has no say in the electrical system. The kinetic energy gained from the force acting on the rotor is completely free and came out of thin air so to speak. I have a much simpler thought experiment on this which I'm currently setting up a presentation for.

[Groundloop]

@broli,

Exactly my thoughts also. I think if we use a bifilar wound toroid and capture
back almost 80 - 90 % of the energy spent saturating the coil, and also pick
up some coils voltages spikes, then this motor will be over unity.

Groundloop.

[esaruoho]

I have been following him for years!!!!  Right on.  I wonder if there is an English translation.  I can sort of read the french enough to get the just of the subject but need more accurate information.  GREAT someone else has jumped in there and JLN is good.

Respectfully
Ben

http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/indexen.htm
also
http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/html/steffecten.htm

[Omnibus]

@eatenbyagrue,

Please tell me where my logic is wrong, I am trying to understand.

The way I understand it is this. Powering of the coil cores has nothing to do with the presence of the rotor. Energy balance of the coils is 100% in any event. Now when a rotor is present there’s only an interaction between its magnetic field and the magnetic field of the cores without any back influence (back emf) of the rotor on the coils. Thus, the rotational energy of the rotor comes as a bonus, as FE, not affecting the 100% input energy.

That’s why, the calculation we should do is probably to add that FE to the input energy and then divide that sum by the input energy itself. Overunity is demonstrated just by the fact that the rotor spins.

[Omnibus]

I was discussing this earlier in the village of the banned forum and I'm glad that it beginning to be the understanding here too. Interesting stuff.