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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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exnihiloest

Quote from: callanan on December 29, 2009, 11:47:10 PM
Hi All,

Please see this video of my Steorn test motor running on a virtually dead 9V battery.
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Hi Ossie,

A "virtually dead" battery can still provide current for a while when the voltage is not a question (and here it is the case, because the coils have a low resistance).
Why to not replace the "virtually dead" 9V battery with a capacitor of some hundreds µF?


Omnibus

Quote from: exnihiloest on December 30, 2009, 04:29:07 AM
Hi Ossie,

A "virtually dead" battery can still provide current for a while when the voltage is not a question (and here it is the case, because the coils have a low resistance).
Why to not replace the "virtually dead" 9V battery with a capacitor of some hundreds µF?
Because exchanging the battery for a capacitor turns the device into something else, not what is claimed nere. If you understand the principle of action of this motor you'd no better that it has to work with a battery, preferably not virtually dead battery, even.

exnihiloest

Quote from: eatenbyagrue on December 29, 2009, 10:32:38 AM
I agree, if you have a device that you can show is over 100% efficient, then overunity is easy to prove there, so certainly efficiency is relevant to overunity.

Omnibus is talking about total energy, though, so I suppose if heat output + mechanical output > energy input, you have overunity.

How do you accurately measure the total heat from a device though?

Hi eatenbyagrue
You do not need it, or only in a second step.
In the first step, to accurately measure the input and output energy in order to be sure the second one is more than the first, is enough. I suppose that all in all, we would be satisfied with such a proof.
Then we could search for the hidden source (ZPE, environnemental thermal bath...) using calorimeters or other means but this would be only for intellectual satisfaction and theorical knowledge.





Omnibus

Zero point energy (ZPE) is a non-phenomenon and should be excluded as a possible explanation. Environmental thermal bath is out of the question too as an explanation once one gets comfortable with the principle of action of the motor. This is pure and genuine obtainment of energy out of no pre-existing energy reservoir -- violation of CoE in its fullest.