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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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lumen

I wanted to bring to light a problem with winding toroidal coils for this use.
If you wind a coil with two layers, you should not continue to wind around the coil, you need to wind until you reach where you started, then reverse the direction.
Not the direction you are looping on the core, but the advancing direction around the core.
If you do not do this, you are creating a coil that will in effect have two loops of wire that are susceptible to BEMF from the magnets!
That's why everyone can show some BEMF on their coils.


Bruce_TPU

Quote from: Groundloop on January 01, 2010, 04:05:46 PM
@Bruce_TPU,

The solid state Orbo produces high voltage at low amperage in the generator coil.
So I need to make a impedance match or step down transformer to be able
to use that power for something. But the method works! The unit DOES produce
output power in the generator coil.

In my motor test with magnets on the toroid,
the RPM did go dramatically UP and the input usage went DOWN.
I have no video but it is easy to test for everyone by themselves.



Hi Groundloop,

Great information, thank you!  You might consider using stranded or litz for the Solid state generator core, making the coil with a series of strands in parallel.  Should increase amperage and decrease voltage.  I also loved the idea that was given earlier to increase the magnetic flux.

What size wire did you use for your generator core, and what was it's approximate length?  Thanks!

@ALL
Happy New year to all!  Please find attached pictures of my Steorn Magnet motor being built.  I am winding on my third toroid, and I made the design flexible in design with everything removable.  I have the toroids held between two wine bottle corks.  I have a feeling in the next few weeks all of ours will be changing radically.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

gyulasun

Quote from: mondrasek on January 01, 2010, 04:23:58 PM

So, does using a lower Permeability ferrite core material have any potential negative effects for an eOrbo set up?

Hi,

The torque for this motor setup comes from attraction between a magnet and a ferromagnetic core and I think you surely get less attraction force to a core with a permeability of 20 than to a core with a permeability of 1500.
So I think this is the relationship.

To choose a good core for our job here you have to select cores with the lowest saturation values, among the ones with a permeability over several hundred or higher.

rgds, Gyula

Groundloop

@Bruce_TPU,

Thanks. Any you got a nice motor setup there.

>>What size wire did you use for your generator core, and what
>>was it's approximate length?

I posted that information back on page 60 in this thread.
There I also posted the core sizes etc.

Alex.

powercat

Would it be more efficient to utilise more than one side of the toroid ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep5yRg5J3Z0
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