STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[PaulLowrance]

You're welcome Chet. Hey take a look at this promising machine. Maybe its design is related to the Orbo,

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8497

[infringer]

So will this toast ferrite very soon causing yet another precious resource extinction?

Ferrite the new black gold Texas T now Texas F?

This worries me a little there original demo I do not believe was the same thing I wonder if this is just an intro type device to show a possible working model?

Either way I am still rooting for these guys I would assume ferrite is an abundant resource do not quot me on that though...

[Liberty]

Harti,
your analysis is only partially correct.  Comments in-line.
Yes because the toroid core is made of magnetic material.

No, the rotor magnets are NOT repelled.

The rotor magnets are neither strongly nor weakly repelled;
they only continue coasting by without being attracted back
in the direction of the torrid core.  The pulse into the toroid
coil has NO effect on the rotor magnets, neither attraction
nor repulsion.

Your analysis is correct until the rotor magnet reaches the
toroid coil.  At this point a pulse into the toroid coil saturates
the toroid core since it exceeds a certain ampere-turns
rating for that particular core material and size.  When the
toroid magnetic core saturates, it becomes what I call
"synthetic air" as all its magnetic properties disappear.
Since the rotor magnet is not attracted to "synthetic air"
it continues to rotate with no braking.  The magnetic leakage
from the now air-cored toroid is small.
Once the rotor magnet is far enough away from the toroid,
the pulse is stopped and the toroid core returns to being
magnetic material.

In my opinion, this demo is completely different from all
else Stoern has done until now.

In effect, this motor is alchemy.  Instead of turning lead into
gold, it turns magnetic material into air.

It should be very easy to replicate this motor, add
generator coils, use optosensors for timing and then
measure input to output power.  No reed relays
necessary.

I do not think that Stoern is using generator coils in
this demo.  This demo is interesting due to the non
traditional use of magnetic core saturation, but it
shows absolutely nothing about under or over unity.


Regards, Earl

It would appear that the key to this motor being able to generate more power out than input power, is whether the power invested in the toroid coil is more or less than the amount of useful torque output of the motor measured as watts of power out.  The amount of heat generated by the power input into the toroid coil is of no matter.  Heat that is generated is waste and is not useful.  Perhaps they will do a straight forward test like just described, to answer the real question.

[wings]

"they just saturate the ferrite cores with very high input current pulses"

4 coils , it is possible with only 1 AA battery?

Current and voltage starts at different time it is usual?

The ferrite core it is not visible , my be there is an hidden horizontal coil inside?
more in line with his philosophy

[lumen]

The core material is ferrite?
Did I miss something?

I would think something like a small spool of 1010 steel wire would be a better core material because of it's high permeability and low saturation point.