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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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teslaalset

Quote from: PaulLowrance on December 21, 2009, 11:43:08 AM
I would agree that this Orbo effect is seen in a lot of other designs. IMO it's far more complex than just saturating the core, so please consider that if saturating the core does not work. Long ago I did plenty of FEMM analysis on my designs which use this same effect, and simply saturating the core always showed less than 100% efficiency, but if you get the applied field from the electrical current just right relative to the particular core you are using, then according to FEMM it is COP>1. I managed to find nine of my FEMM sims on this type of effect, but could not find the Lua scripts to go with them.
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The adam motor sounds like it has potential. Any good replications? I commend Steorn on their great work. Good for them for closing the loop, successfully creating a self-runner.

Agreed, do *NOT* let this effect die. IMO it's legit. Nice going Steorn!

Paul, can you share the lua script files that go with these designs?
I love playing with FEMM and it's been a while since I had a go.
Just curious about your simulation findings....

PaulLowrance

Quote from: teslaalset on December 21, 2009, 11:52:42 AM
Paul, can you share the lua script files that go with these designs?
I love playing with FEMM and it's been a while since I had a go.
Just curious about your simulation findings....

Hi,

My post says I could not find them. I was very careful to be certain that text was in the post before I hit the submit button, lol. I do have other lua scripts for other FEMM sims, but they're for totally different magnetic designs.

plengo

I think this motor is an exact function of the window motor from Bedini with certain modifications, that being
the use of a toroid. If you look at the window motor and how it really works, one will see that it
runs not by the magnetic field itself but by the B field and its "curly A" field as Bearden explains
therefore why the name "window motor" (since it opens the window to the curly A field to manifest itself
without the restrictive B field.

Steron is using a 2 magnets which I think are arranged in a tri-state magnetic gate, North facing the other South)
so top magent is sharply north facing down while the bottom magnet is south sharply facing up, so in the
intersection of both magnets you have this "gate".

When the magnets approach the toroid a magnetic flux is generated on the toroid but the trick is this: a very
sharp pulse will flip the gate in the magnets causing them to repell from the toroid because of the
curly A field which spins trasversially from the toroid, just like Howard Jonhson's train on the tracks
example and his gates, therefore repelling the magnets away from the toroid.

This gate flipping is what Bearden claims to be what Howard Jonshon's motor principles of functionality.
Bedini also talks about that one point.

My 2 cents,

Fausto.

PaulLowrance

Lot of interesting ideas. Seems there are various ways of looking at this, and different design flavors.

[edit: never mind]

lumen

I'm thinking at this point, it would be best to try to first get even one exact operating replica. But even this is nearly impossible.
We still need all the missing details.

Rotor magnet polarity. (could easily try all combinations)

Coil core material.(probable high permeability and low saturation point)

Timing of current trigger.(could make adjustable to cover entire range)

Most important! (theory of operation) We all see it run, and believe we understand why, but why aren't they saying?