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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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exnihiloest

Quote from: Omnibus on December 30, 2009, 04:45:44 AM
Because exchanging the battery for a capacitor turns the device into something else, not what is claimed nere.
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What is claimed is a motor running from a battery.
Omnibus, you must be informed that it is not new  :D

If the battery is a mean for storing and recovering electrical energy, and nobody said it is not the case here, then we can use capacitors instead. It is just a question of quantity of charges that we have to deal with (with just an adaptation of the electronics because a capacitor does not work at a constant voltage).

All motor cycles being identical, it is clear that the balance of charges exchange is the same at each motor turn. Thus a battery or capacitor able to store and furnish the charges smoothly on one turn is enough. This needs not at all a high capacity battery like that used by Steorn.

But if it is a magic battery, I agree that we cannot replace it by other means.


Omnibus

There are many knowledgeable people here, fine engineers and researchers, who have followed the development of this idea for a long time who would know where it actually originated from. Who was the first to propose that a permanent magnet motor would only be coupled magnetically with the core of a coil (probably toroid is the best choice but who propsed it first) excluding any electrical rotor-coil coupling? Who was the first to notice that the current and voltage scope traces don't change form under load in such a machine which is a direct proof that said machine is OU. This contraption os one of the most brilliant ideas I've seen inthe OU field and kudos to Steorn for bringing it so powerfully into the public space.

exnihiloest

Quote from: Omnibus on December 30, 2009, 05:03:02 AM
Zero point energy (ZPE) is a non-phenomenon and should be excluded as a possible explanation. Environmental thermal bath is out of the question too as an explanation once one gets comfortable with the principle of action of the motor. This is pure and genuine obtainment of energy out of no pre-existing energy reservoir -- violation of CoE in its fullest.

"Zero point energy (ZPE) is a non-phenomenon..."
"Environmental thermal bath is out of the question..."

It is irrelevant to say that possible explanations for a not proved claim are wrong. It does not make sens, it is to put the plow before the horse.
The question now is: is there OU?





Omnibus

The answer is: yes, there is OU. The constancy of U and I even under load prove it.

As for its explanation, as I said, in this and in any other case zpe cannot be utilized because zpe is a non-phenomenon. The case we're discussing is a geniuine OU, not seeming one and therefore environmental thermal bath as an explanation is also out of the question.

Omnibus

Quote from: exnihiloest on December 30, 2009, 05:09:26 AM
What is claimed is a motor running from a battery.
Omnibus, you must be informed that it is not new  :D

If the battery is a mean for storing and recovering electrical energy, and nobody said it is not the case here, then we can use capacitors instead. It is just a question of quantity of charges that we have to deal with (with just an adaptation of the electronics because a capacitor does not work at a constant voltage).

All motor cycles being identical, it is clear that the balance of charges exchange is the same at each motor turn. Thus a battery or capacitor able to store and furnish the charges smoothly on one turn is enough. This needs not at all a high capacity battery like that used by Steorn.

But if it is a magic battery, I agree that we cannot replace it by other means.
Like I said, if you really understood what's going on here you would've known that it is new and you wouldn't have even posted the above text.