STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[k4zep]

@ Ossie, great stuff!  Looks like your drifting, but in a good way!

@ all,
A couple interesting things to note from Steorn's argument with TK:

1st...  When asked to replace the battery with a capacitor, Sean gave a response that made no sense... "Not as easy as you may think - we need a pretty instant current responce (due to the rotational speed), hence the 'deep' battery."
....  WTF, this makes no sense.  Why would he post a reply like that?  Everybody knows caps are WAY faster at pushing instant current than any battery I've ever heard of!  There are a trillion other responses he could have had to that question, but this was not a response I expected.

2nd... Check out this quote... "As for the delay - there is no delay, there is a current rise, its very slow, thats due to the core material that we use."
....  This would certainly indicate that they DO NOT use normal core material for their toroidal coils.

I'm more confused than ever about Orbo now.  I get the feeling that either Sean is just playing dumb, or they are trying to throw off any replicators.  Either way is fine, it's their discovery, and they are releasing it at their own speed.  It's just weird responses from Sean is all I'm saying.

Hi CP,

Steorn is shall we say somewhat oblique in his response for what reasons I will not speculate. It might be simply a matter of sequential communication in that he is trying to keep each process separate as he leads the sheep to the fold. 

The waveform shows a virtually identical rise time on both VOLTAGE and CURRENT as if the core is composed of a very weak magnetic material.  This rapid rise time can not happen in his statement above unless he is simply talking about the coils response time.   The cores field and CURRENT IN THE CORE as it is switched, due to a very low magnetic (mu) u,  borders on paramagnetic or very low ferromagnetic composition and  is simply another process and he will handle them separately in his discussion it would seem. The interaction between the two processes is not or has not been considered at this point in his discussion. Probably it has not come up so he is letting that part of the process lie by the wayside for now.   It is possible that this slow field rise time in the core. vs. the rapid rise time in the coil gives him the phase shift in the fields that he is looking for. 

The battery makes sense IF the current and voltage rise VERY FAST IN the COILS AS THE WAVEFORM WOULD SUGGEST.  You have to have a robust current source to support that RAPID RISE time of voltage/current in the coil......It would appear that he has not kept up with the latest super caps or cap. technology in his quest......

I severely question the ability of a reed relay to support switching during the start up and long runtime of/in the system.  Perhaps they spin it up by hand and never let it run at low RPM'.

Respectfully,

Ben

[maw2432]

I found this video interesting.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC_1Qf_Y4GU

Note the date  posted...... Dec 11 2009

Very similar effect??

Bill

[Larskro]

Hi

My Motor is now running with a trigger supply from a coil.  2000 ohm.
Se Wideo 8: without 9 volt batt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNJ34Ss5TIQ

[PaulLowrance]

Hmm,
you could be right,
but his new C34 Orbo movie with only 270 MikroWatts of input power is pretty efficient with the loud output noise and wind output it generates
and he could already be in overunity mode
with it, when he would measure all the energies it puts out and also all losses as heat outputs
from each device in his circuit would be accounted for with it.

Will be interesting to see, if he will change his new videos more into the support or
rather into the skeptical view direction...

I also asked him to reduce his input power even more by chopping his 4 Milliseconds
input pulse into a burst of like 10  On-Off 400 Mikroseconds pulses,
so this will reduce power input again and have more BackEMF recycling output power.

I agree, but there's a problem here. We should not trust anything TK posts. Remember his big fake, that huge rotating machine that was obviously cop>1 *unless* TK had something hidden.

I tried to make a deal with TK, an exchange of my diode array for his device. He said yes, but he refused to sign a paper stating what I would receive. He would not say that the passive device I received would spin for at least 7 hours as he claimed. For those who were not around during this, TK built a magnetic device that had no batteries, or at least that's what he said. The device was large, maybe 2 feet or larger in diameter. I forgot the rpm's, but it was high. With the flick of his wrist it would start, and accelerate.

So it's clear that all of TK's videos cannot be trusted. Why are his videos in a dark room. Why not show everything. He should place everything on a glass table with no clutter. Even then I would not trust him.

Here it is,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV7CO8No-CE

[gyulasun]

I found this video interesting.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC_1Qf_Y4GU

Note the date  posted...... Dec 11 2009

Very similar effect??

Bill

Hi Bill,

If the steorn motor shown openly a few week ago worked by saturating the toroidal core, then the parallel path technology is not similar to that, because there is no any saturation needed for it to work, in fact saturation is to be avoided.  See some info with measurements on it in Josh's Research paper here:
http://www.flynnresearch.net/young%20scientist/Josh%20Jones/josh.htm

rgds, Gyula