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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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jox


lumen

Quote from: captainpecan on January 10, 2010, 12:11:01 PM
I see the difference in our setup now.  It didn't occur to me until just now, but your toroid is laying flat, so the center would be the sticky spot for your setup.  Your's is setup like the second demo he did showing the scope.  Mine is setup like the actual orbo demo, with the toroids vertical, and the magnets passing in front of the top and bottom side of the coil at the same time.  I'll do some more experiments when I get home this evening.
I think you have the correct setup, since this is the only setup that Steorn has claimed to be OU.
I agree that the rotor magnet polarity is likely to be opposite polarities facing the toroid. By this line of thinking, the direction of saturation is in the same direction already aligned by the magnets, so the polarity of the coil winding is probably important also to achieve OU but not to simply run.

PaulLowrance

Quote from: jox on January 10, 2010, 12:26:27 PM
It maybe that JL is now using dual magnets

Is that cylinder made of metal? A metal cylinder would create massive eddy currents.

PaulLowrance


PaulLowrance

Quote from: captainpecan on January 10, 2010, 12:05:15 AM
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1st...  When asked to replace the battery with a capacitor, Sean gave a response that made no sense... "Not as easy as you may think - we need a pretty instant current responce (due to the rotational speed), hence the 'deep' battery."
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Good point. IMO the capacitor issue is the only thing I don't get about Steorn. Maybe the excess energy effect comes and goes, comes and goes. Trust me, that's what I'm seeing with my temperature measurements, so far. In that case they would need a large source of energy such as found in a battery in case the excess energy effect went away for awhile. And that seems to match their demonstrations, right, where sometimes they have to change things.

They could use an ultracapacitor such as the bcap0650, 650 farads, but then what's the advantage of using that since it holds as much energy as a 658mAh AA rechargeable battery. People would complain that the bcap0650 holds too much energy.