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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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Airstriker

#1820
January 16, 2010, 05:07:37 PM
Quote from: gravityblock on January 16, 2010, 04:28:57 PM
Let's work together instead of against each other.  We will get more done this way.
Done. I was always for that but simply putting magic to the concept will not make it work. Let's stick to the facts and physics only. Ok?

I think most of it we have cracked. Now we need experiments only.
JLN has a new video:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/indexen.htm
Looks very well.  However, do you know anything about the power input ? Current | voltage ? Does anybody here have a direct contact with him? Would be nice if he could test different toroid orientation (the one I've shown) and compare the input power. His setup is very precise so it should give a good comparison.

gyulasun

#1821
January 16, 2010, 05:47:44 PM

Wonder how Naudin connected the compensation coils and also the variable power resistor?

Probably the compensation coils works against the main flux in each toroidal core?

Dissipation in the power resistor is negligible with respect to the gain with flat pulses?

Gyula

teslaalset

#1822
January 16, 2010, 05:49:43 PM
@All,
Are you guys in for a discussion on how a Solid State Orbo should be implemented?

Maybe we should open a dedicated thread on this.

[edit] Never mind, there is already one. Found it. Sorry!

PaulLowrance

#1823
January 16, 2010, 06:34:41 PM
I just got my mini 1" OD orbo to run using the magamp metglas core. For now the toroid is not mounted, so I have to hold it, lol. It's very sensitive. For some reason it will only run if the toroid is slightly slanted, at least so far. If Sean is reading these posts, he may split a gut laughing at my hand held toroid orbo. How's that for precision?  ;D

Anyhow, it's pretty cool seeing this run on only 37 turns. Right now it seems very inefficient, so we still might have a ways to go before figuring out the Steorn Orbo secrets. I did not measure the input power or even the voltage, yet, but according to the meter it was drawing ~ 200mA DC.

Bruce_TPU

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January 16, 2010, 06:52:03 PM
Quote from: gyulasun on January 16, 2010, 02:37:02 PM

HI FOLKS,

As someone already pointed out,  the measured nearly 1H inductance by Steorn includes the four toroidal coils in series. 
If this is really so, then the 1H should be divided by 4 if four coils are in series,  so this gives around 240-250mH for any one toroidal coil.

rgds, Gyula

Hi Paul,

Your thoughts on the above post, please...

Thanks,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.
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