STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[Jimboot]

Btw I am using Ossie's original circuit not the JLN modified one wit resistor. So essentially 2 X N5408, 2 reeds & 4 coils.

[void109]

Been following this thread and have been tinkering my own little lab I patched together specifically to look at this tech...  I have a notion (i'm new to electrical engineering and such), and if I can get a couple of you to give me the nod of approval, meaning, its a reasonably sound idea, I'll invest in testing it.

Pulsing the coil saturates the core rendering it less attractive to a  permanent magnet.  I assume that's true?  I was unable to make my coils 'invisible', but I could drastically reduce the attraction.

The amount of current required to saturate the core is a fixed value independent of the rating of the permanent magnet.  Is that true?

If the above are true, and seeing as mounting an absurdly large magnet to the rotor is impractical, I propose buying two large Neo magnets (3"x3") and putting the coils, circuit and battery/cap in the rotor.  If the above relationship is as asymmetric as it appears, this should be very self evident with the proposed setup.

The fact that everyone is squeezing and optimizing to whatever ends available to barely meet unity, seems to say that either we are skirting the edges of what is possible with magnets that are simply too weak, or, that the amount of current that is required may scale with the strength of the permanent magnet which I think would then make the relationship symmetrical.

Crazy? Not?  Thanks for any input!  Those big magnets can be costly, so I wanted to solicit your feedback prior to purchase.

[dynoc]

Hy, all...


I'm an italian researcher,
I'm very curious in ossie motor!
@woopy...
Wath is wattage drain by your motor during test?

a doubt, anyone tried to replace battery with cap? (eventually ultracapacitor?)
thank..goog work
-D-

[Jimboot]

Ossie motor now running for over 13 hours. 2800RPM at the moment, battery has dropped to 5.82Volts. I'll start build on another one tonight. Anyone else using screws to fasten their coils & use them to trigger the coils? This is what is giving me the high RPMs.
btw how do I measure the amps on this baby? Where do I stick my probes? (be nice!)

[ltseung888]

Comments on the Steorn Final Demo

I have watched the three part final demo:
Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkKPfhQgEVk
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/user/reeeeeely#p/a/u/1/QPaE78qnXks
Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY-IZby6lIY


It is clear to me that Steorn is NOT using the Lead-Out Energy to explain the source of energy of Orbo yet.  Their demonstration and the data presented so far is NOT convincing as far as proving COP > 1.

If I were to present the Orbo from the Lead-Out Energy Theory Point of View, I would do the following:

1.   Explain the Lead-Out Energy Theory first.  The Law of Conservation of Energy has NOT been violated.  The extra energy comes from Electron Motion (magnetic) energy from the surrounding.  So long as there is a Pulse Force on a non-constant speed rotating wheel, we can lead-out electron motion energy.  See the Lee-Tseung Lead Out Energy theory thread for more details.
2.   Talk about the various factors that would affect the efficiency.  It is a matter of properly tuning or matching the various parts.
3.   One important factor is the PULSE Current.  It must be provided at the right time.  Its strength and duration will determine the INPUT POWER supplied.  Its frequency should vary with the External Load.
4.   Another important factor is the Coil.  In the Orbo, magnetic attraction was used.  In the Tong wheel, magnetic repulsion was used.  With magnetic repulsion, we can easily increase the force via higher current.  With the Orbo, the input current is used to reduce the magnetic attraction.  It is not easy to increase the Pulsing force.
5.   Another important factor is the diameter of the wheel.  With a larger diameter, more coils and magnets can be put on.  Tuning can be achieved with different number of drive coils and collector coils as in the Tong wheel.  The larger wheel also allows time for the Lead-Out Energy Process to complete. 
6.   With any PULSE Force, the pushed object will take time to accelerate to the highest speed to take full advantage of that force.  If the RPM or pulse interval is too fast, this will not happen.  Most Pulse Motor Researchers did not understand this important factor.  From the comments in this thread, I believe some replicators still did not appreciate this.  They are still blindly trying to get higher rotational speed.
7.   The most important aspect is to allow other groups to test the demonstration prototype with their own equipment.  Different types of experiments can be done.  Good ideas and suggestions will come out.
 
As far as providing full engineering specification for replication, Steorn would like to protect some secrets.  In addition, there were much tuning to get to the right working point.  The Tong Wheel can demonstrate this aspect very well with the proximity switch positioning.  With slight variation, the Tong wheel can rotate clockwise, rotate anti-clockwise, stop, achieve OU or fail to achieve OU.

The better way is to have manufactured Educational Products that can demonstrate OU at purchase.  The buyer (developer or student) can then take the product apart and improve.

At this moment in time, the Tong Wheel is ahead of Orbo in its ability to demonstrate OU.  Both devices are now open to the Public for verification and testing.  The World will benefit.

Lawrence Tseung
Director
Help Seedlings Innovate Foundation Limited