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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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Omnibus

MrEntropy, a participant in another forum has provided the simple explanation of this crucial definitive test. Indeed, the I^2R where R is the Ohmic resistance of the toroid coils is the recoverable power that goes for Joule heating. That part of the input I*V power isn't spent for spinning the rotor (and producing the i^2r output power, where i is the current in the pick-up coil and r is its Ohmic resistance) and has to be subtracted. Thus, the bottom trace in the screen shot posted earlier in this thread, in fact shows I*V -I^2R integrated. Its slope gives the input power. What Sean did is a very clever, definitive way of demonstrating OU by a method which improves on MrEntropy's earlier suggestion to compare I^2R with I*V which was stimulated by an earlier Sean's claim that the input power only goes for Joule heating of the toroid coils.

That earlier Sean's claim met with objections from some who made a big point that there are also inductive and other losses and therefore it cannot be that I^2R = I*V. Now in the way this final demo was presented any such objections become meaningless and the proof of OU becomes conclusive, provided the values of R and r are determined correctly and there are no other trivial systematic errors. At this moment I take the position that such trivial errors are unlikely in view of the fact that neither Sean nor his assistants are sophomores in the principles of elementary measurement techniques.

Steorn have done a fantastic job and have to be commended for their latest demo. Case seems closed, continuous production of excess energy being definitively proven by a very clever simple experiment (involving sophisticated test equipment). Of course, I'm looking forward to see independent parties confirm that effect which will establish that finding in the body of the mainstream science.

neptune

@ Jimboot , re where do I stick my probes . Just in case you did not fully understand the reply by Captain 88179  . Remove positive .wire from pos battery terminal . place red wire from multimeter onto battery pos terminal . Connect black wire from multimeter to the wire you previously removed from pos battery terminal . Job done . You can in fact break the battery leads at any point ,and connect multimeter leads to the disconnected ends. If your probes are reversed , meter will show a negative quantity . Always ensure meter is set to correct range before connecting . If in doubt , start at a high current range and work down . Hope this helps.

maw2432

Quote from: Jimboot on January 31, 2010, 05:29:55 PM
The rotor is just an old power supply fan that I increased the Dia of so I could fit my big mags on it. Uploading vid now. I had it has high as 7000RPM but it was not feeding back to the battery.
Here is latest vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCj7iT_jdHQ

Jim,  looks great.  Are you using reflector tape for your RPM measurements?  Sometimes the magnets reflect and cause one to think they are getting much faster RPM. 
Sorry if this was covered before.

Bill

Jimboot

I just posted 20 mins ago that it looks like that is exactly what was happening. Divide all my reported RPMs by three. Thanks. I'm a noob. Sorry.

Jimboot

You guys serously have to build an Ossie motor. Back on the 8 yo abused d cell now. 140 RPM & looks like it is stable at 1.27V. It sounds like a steam engine starting up on 6V. Amazing under a stethoscope. I think I need a magnetic potentiometer. The screws I have used to hold on the coils have been acting as a mag trigger for my reeds. I ran the Ossie motor for the last 21 hours on a 6V battery at speeds of between 800 -1200. (corrected - previously reported 3 times higher). At the mo I am sliding the reeds terminals up and down the backs of the screws to tune. The field on the screws is weak. I was thinking of something that would adjust where the screw made contact with the terminal. Any ideas? I guess this will be obsolete when Ossie introuces the hall effects version :)