STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[exnihiloest]

@lumen

We must reckon that Steorn motor is a very low friction motor. A very weak mechanical energy can maintain its rotation. This means that the coil/magnet coupling is likely weak (although the ferrite/magnet coupling is strong). Not surprisingly a magnet does not change noticeably the U/I pulse.
We should ask us why Steorn motor has to be friction less. If its principle was really a free change of ferrite mu by the coil current at a null energy price, then we could let the magnets pass very near the coils and get a terrible torque.

[lumen]

@lumen

We must reckon that Steorn motor is a very low friction motor. A very weak mechanical energy can maintain its rotation. This means that the coil/magnet coupling is likely weak (although the ferrite/magnet coupling is strong). Not surprisingly a magnet does not change noticeably the U/I pulse.
We should ask us why Steorn motor has to be friction less. If its principle was really a free change of ferrite mu by the coil current at a null energy price, then we could let the magnets pass very near the coils and get a terrible torque.

@exnihiloest

I would also wonder why it would need to be frictionless except for the four generating coils at the top of the motor that recover the losses and must be placing a drag on the rotor.
I believe it to be over unity but I am not yet convinced it can be built to be self sustaining.

Self sustainability would be a breakover point where the device would become astounding!
I believe that is what everyone is looking for.

[exnihiloest]

@exnihiloest

I would also wonder why it would need to be frictionless except for the four generating coils at the top of the motor that recover the losses and must be placing a drag on the rotor.
I believe it to be over unity but I am not yet convinced it can be built to be self sustaining.

Self sustainability would be a breakover point where the device would become astounding!
I believe that is what everyone is looking for.

I share almost all your point of view, except I would like the only criteria of over-unity to be the self-sustainability (this would have avoided hundreds of past claims, erroneous or fallacious).

[Airstriker]

@Woopy . No problem old chap . It is just that dumb guys like me do not get much glory . The real glory must go to Gravityblock for his investigation of the idea .

To be honest I don't see anything glorifying in the tapes experiment GB provided. All you can see in his video is a physical proof of hysteresis loop (experiment good for school labs and not for explaining ORBO ). When you approach a magnetized tape to a magnet (or vice versa) you can see that they are repelling each other (of course it depends how you set the magnet - but let's say that they repell each other). For some time, when you keep approaching the tape to the magnet they still keep repelling each other. This will stay that way till the magnet will reach the point where magnetic field strength applied on the tape is = Hc (coercivity). Note, that till this happens you are moving on the second quarter of the tape's hysteresis loop graph. The distance it takes for the magnet to reach Hc point is quite big, because tapes are made in a way to not get erased easily when moved near magnetic field (big Hc values). Ok, now what happens when the magnet reaches Hc point ? We end up in the third quarter of the hysteresis loop - the tape is no longer magnetized and if you move the magnet closer to the tape, the tape will change the direction in which it will be magnetized. This will simply lead to the attraction between the magnet and the tape.

If you see anything special in it then you can also glorify me for explaining you this issue lol
Anyway I don't really see a way you can use this "effect" in ORBO
And if you keep insisting on the subject that we should use tapes as the cores for ORBO, please let me remind you that as PL said - Metglas cores are in fact tapes ;] So what ?

[neptune]

@Airstriker . You have probably forgotten more about magnetic materials than I ever knew . My point is that the use of tape was closer to the mark than might be imagined . Idiots like me need to be reassured that it is OK to suggest out- of-the-box ideas and not be ridiculed . In the words of Forest Gump ,"that's all I have got to say about that ."