STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[Omnibus]

Now, that's correct but it has already long been known, judging from Steorn's data. Now, again, the problem is to have it verified by a third party.

[Jimboot]

Everybody needs to calm down here, frustration is at a all time level!!!
Let's be objective and take a look a the Steorn saga based on reality:

Steorn takes out big add in the Economist spending 50,000 (euro or $) claiming to have invented a device that will solve all the worlds energy needs. This is wonderful everyones excited. Who would do this unless they really had something. Show us more!!!
And the investor money rolls in.

Steorn established independent group to validate their claims. Accountability and independent validation. This sound better and better! And the investor money rolls in.

Steorn announce first open display of Orbo- We can hardly wait! .And the investor money rolls in.

Whoops!! Orbo melts down due to heat from camera lighting- What? And the investor money rolls in.

Group investigating Orbo say " no over unity here" . What's going on here? Steorn and evidently everyone else pays no attention to this. And the investor money rolls in.

Steorn announce second demo. This is great they fixed the problem. All is forgiven. Were all excited. And the investor money rolls in.

Second demo is a battery running a small motor. Oh-oh, but for some reason that is ok. Because a zillion pages are spend on this site talking about coils.
OU is a very simple concept- more out than in. In this case more voltage x amperage out than voltage x amperage in. But again for some reason this has been all but ignored.
Omnibus once said I would only be happy if there was no battery in the system. Sounds right to me, has there been any absolute proof showing that the battery is charging up. Even if it is we all know that a battery showing a higher voltage can be due simply to  electrolyte stirring.
If they have OU replace the battery with a cap, if they have OU then loop it back into the system to  keep it running. And the investor money rolls in.

OK I am waiting for there next demo of there all magnetic Orbo. When is that going to occure-I'm really excited here. And the investor money rolls in.
6,000,000 million Euro or $ and counting

Hey Bill,
What if your motor is running at close to 100% efficiency and it does work i.e. I have attached a seperate gen motor to my rotor, but the voltage is lower going out that what is running my coils. How do you get that extra voltage back into the coils rather than charging a separate battery? I am quite a noob so this is a genuine question rather than a defense of Steorn. edit: Also on the replacing with a cap, my exp with the Ossie motor is that you can run a motor indefinitely but it won't necessarilly run off a cap. Also the capacity & type of battery changes the efficiency of the motor as well.

Incidentally I have tried some Metglas squareloop cores but I'm not getting anywhere near saturation at this point.

[gravityblock]

I have an article from the late 1800's on magnetic viscosity by E. Rutherford, http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=375  This research was undertaken to see if steel or soft iron exhibited any appreciable magnetic viscosity when under the influence of very rapidly changing fields.  It says soft iron and steel exhibit the effect of magnetic viscosity quite strongly for a frequency of 1,000.  Very informative article.

Any thoughts on this?

GB

[billmehess]

Hey Bill,
What if your motor is running at close to 100% efficiency and it does work i.e. I have attached a seperate gen motor to my rotor, but the voltage is lower going out that what is running my coils. How do you get that extra voltage back into the coils rather than charging a separate battery? I am quite a noob so this is a genuine question rather than a defense of Steorn. edit: Also on the replacing with a cap, my exp with the Ossie motor is that you can run a motor indefinitely but it won't necessarilly run off a cap. Also the capacity & type of battery changes the efficiency of the motor as well.

Incidentally I have tried some Metglas squareloop cores but I'm not getting anywhere near saturation at this point.

First how do you know it's running at ( close to 100% efficiency)
If you are admitting that your voltage is dropping this is just the normal drain on the battery. As far as getting " extra" voltage into the cells that really is the challange on any motor claiming to be OU.
Also you state that the Ossie motor will run indefinitly - no it won't. If it would run indefinitly then it would have to be running at over OU as it would need to overcome friction, even as little friction as there might be.
If this were true then a cap replacing the battery would work. Since it does not what does that tell you.
The Steorn motor does not work, it has never worked  . Only if they can run it with a cap or show their all magnetic motor will they prove beyond a doubt that what they say is factual. In the final analysis all they have is a battery running a small motor.
For this type of motor OU is defined very simply it is more power in (watts) than power out. Any thing else is all smoke and mirrors. If the motor generates more power out then that power in (watts= voltage x amperage) could be looped back into the motor to  power it indefinitly.
Remember Steorn claimed that their motor would change the world and make other forms of energy obsolete. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. In reality so far they have proved nothing.
POWER IN vs POWER OUT that's what it should be all about every thing else is mental masturbation.

[Omnibus]

Not so. Science requires proof according to its own criteria, based on the scientific method and never qualifies claims or proof as extraordinary or non-extraordinary. Thus, according to these criteria of science Steorn motor not only works but is also OU which has been proved by very precise methods. As to how one judges whether or not Steorn motor is OU this has been explained in the recent posts and anybody interested in the matter can go back and read that explanation.

The only thing that remains now is to confirm independently Steorn's observations which isn't an easy task in view of the massive lack of adequate equipment. Steorn are way ahead of everybody in that respect and that's their main problem in terms of having their claim verified by third parties.