STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[billmehess]

So what you are saying is that Steorn equipment is so advanced that only they can claim and " prove OU. And because of everyone else having inferior testing equipment that is why they have been unable to validate Steorns claims?

[Airstriker]

Considering ORBO's intelectual rights... What is their real state ? Can you use it's working principle, build your own devices and sell them if you haven't signed their NDA ? There is no patent on it so in fact it can be considered "open sourced" - right or not ? You cannot patent it yourself but you can use it if you know how. Is that right or not ? Can they sue you if you build your own unit and sell it ? Why didn't they patent it ? If Howard Johnson got his patent it shouldn't be a great deal to get one for ORBO. If they had patented it, it would have still been possible for them to sell licences. Is it possible to get the patent for OU device if you say it's OU and show them a working unit ? Is saying that you broke law of conservation of energy prohibited when patenting or is it that you cannot say your machine is perpetuum mobile? Just wondering what you can do when you deal with this stuff. I have started a new thread for this question, so please answer there:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8876.new#new

[Jimboot]

First how do you know it's running at ( close to 100% efficiency)

Just what I've learned from others definitions here & @jln. I ran a motor for 100 hours with no change in voltage at the end of the run on an alkaline D cell. When running the voltage would not drop. 

If you are admitting that your voltage is dropping this is just the normal drain on the battery. As far as getting " extra" voltage into the cells that really is the challange on any motor claiming to be OU.

No I'm saying my motor runs & I attach another Gen motor to the rotor and the gen motor generates a charge however I can't get it back into the batt (lack of knowledge) of the main motor as it is a lower voltage than the running battery.

Also you state that the Ossie motor will run indefinitly - no it won't. If it would run indefinitly then it would have to be running at over OU as it would need to overcome friction, even as little friction as there might be.

Not my claim. I know what I can run it at. @jln & @ossie have I think said indefinitely.

If this were true then a cap replacing the battery would work. Since it does not what does that tell you.

That the cap behaves differently to the battery. Just as one battery's performance differs to another, including achieving the right motor frequency, reed switching freq etc. If I could find a cap that matches a Dcell I'd do it.

The Steorn motor does not work, it has never worked  . Only if they can run it with a cap or show their all magnetic motor will they prove beyond a doubt that what they say is factual. In the final analysis all they have is a battery running a small motor.

I'd be happy with a motor steadily increasing in voltage whilst running a standard household incandescent light bulb.

For this type of motor OU is defined very simply it is more power in (watts) than power out. Any thing else is all smoke and mirrors. If the motor generates more power out then that power in (watts= voltage x amperage) could be looped back into the motor to  power it indefinitly.

Yeah if you have a circuit to how I loop that power back that'd be great. Seriously. That is the bit I'm having probs with.

Remember Steorn claimed that their motor would change the world and make other forms of energy obsolete. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. In reality so far they have proved nothing.

Couldn't agree more!

[Omnibus]

So what you are saying is that Steorn equipment is so advanced that only they can claim and " prove OU. And because of everyone else having inferior testing equipment that is why they have been unable to validate Steorns claims?

Correct. That's what I'm saying.

Anything short of demonstrating a self-sustaining device requires equipment at least as sophisticated as Steorn's and, as we see, practically no one involved in this research has such.

[Airstriker]

Correct. That's what I'm saying.

Anything short of demonstrating a self-sustaining device requires equipment at least as sophisticated as Steorn's and, as we see, practically no one involved in this research has such.

IMHO taking the scopeshot's digital data and doing math in whatever program you like is not a problem at all. What's the difference, whether you do it in real time (you Steorn does with his high tech equipement) or do it later in the program (matlab or something)? Both should have the same result. The other equipement (Gauss meters etc.) is not so expensive.