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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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Omega_0

Quote from: teslaalset on May 16, 2010, 04:12:49 PM

Yes, I've received several MetGlas cores, which I have investigated intensively.
I've no motor replication yet, since I had some ideas on a solid state version, that up tilll today appear non working w.r.t. COP>1.


If your design is similar to JLN's S2gen then IMO it won't work. Although I've not done any work on SS version yet.
I guess steorn has simply substituted electromagnets in place of PMs and has simulated the rotation using properly timed waveforms feeding these electromagnets and toroidal coils. So there are no moving parts, only moving fields.

If Eorbo works, this will also work and will require less precision and no mechanical setups. It should work with only one EM and a toroid and at high frequencies.
I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

Omnibus

@Omega_0,

QuoteDoes that mean that the previous results are also incorrect ?

No, the previous results where I used an active resistance as load are correct -- they are underunity. Only the results with the air core are incorrect, that is, the overunity results are incorrect.

Omnibus

@teslaalset,

I see now, I'm using Excel 2003 and have to upgrade to Excel 2007 if I want to use the 135,000 or a million point feature. What I'm doing is I'm saving the data on a flash drive and then I'm processing it  separately with an Excel macro. I guess you have the scope connected to the computer and do the changing of scope parameters and the follow up processing of the data all automatically. Wonder what the advantage of doing it that way may be?

teslaalset

Quote from: Omnibus on May 17, 2010, 07:46:48 AM
@teslaalset,
I guess you have the scope connected to the computer and do the changing of scope parameters and the follow up processing of the data all automatically. Wonder what the advantage of doing it that way may be?

Yes, I've hooked it up to my PC via USB.
My main reason of doing it this way, is that I can obtain more samples per measurement out of the DSO that way.
Mine is only copying 600 time values per measurement when stored on a flash memory, corresponding to the screen resolution of the DSO.
Via USB/PC control I can enlarge the number of samples per measurement to 16K.

Controlling it via a PC is nice but not necessary, I agree.

teslaalset

Quote from: Omega_0 on May 17, 2010, 05:25:44 AM
If your design is similar to JLN's S2gen then IMO it won't work. Although I've not done any work on SS version yet.
I guess steorn has simply substituted electromagnets in place of PMs and has simulated the rotation using properly timed waveforms feeding these electromagnets and toroidal coils. So there are no moving parts, only moving fields.

If Eorbo works, this will also work and will require less precision and no mechanical setups. It should work with only one EM and a toroid and at high frequencies.

The big puzzle in Steorns SSOrbo is the fact they use, as they call it, rotating domains.
From one of the other blogs, I heard they use 3 addition solenoids next to a toroidal coil.

My experiments were more or less inspired by Naudin indeed, but as said, not successful, so I won't clutter any discussion thread on this here at Overunity, until I think I have something new that is worth sharing.