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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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Omnibus

@broli,

My understanding is that the change in frequency is included in that time shift. In fact frequency is 1/T. When you say frequency in this case you mean how many times one full cycle is repeated per second. That's in Hz. So, if you want to know what the angle is then because the full cycle is 360 degrees then you'll have to calculate (360/Tfullperiod)*deltat where Tfullperiod is the peak to peak time measured on the screen (with cursors) and deltat is the observed here phase shift (also measured from the screen with the cursors) expressed in us. Of course, Tfullperiod has to be expressed in us too.

Omnibus

QuoteBut the most correct measurement is the integral one where instantaneous values are integrated over a time period like your graphs.

Correct. But that's exactly what's being done here.

broli

This might sound stupid. But since the magic frequency is around 700kHz what would happen if you removed the whole signal gen and replaced it by one single capacitor that would oscillate with the system around that frequency. After an initial pulse wouldn't energy increase be seen as a linear (or exponential) voltage increase? 2.6 cop should be enough to overcome the minuscule losses of this "closed loop" no?

Omnibus

Quote from: broli on June 18, 2010, 11:31:33 AM
This might sound stupid. But since the magic frequency is around 700kHz what would happen if you removed the whole signal gen and replaced it by one single capacitor that would oscillate with the system around that frequency. After an initial pulse wouldn't energy increase be seen as a linear (or exponential) voltage increase? 2.6 cop should be enough to overcome the minuscule losses of this "closed loop" no?

This is not only not stupid but this is exactly what should be done at once. That would be the ultimate proof that we have OU. For this reason someone knowledgeable in designing and making converters should make one and we will probably have a self-sustaining device.

Omnibus

Of course, there's an intellectual challenge here to prove (or disprove) experimentally, using only electrical measurements, that the observed OU effect isn't an artifact due to parasitic capacitance.