Hydrogen Efficency and Power

[wizkycho]

Wyzkycho,
at first I think and write about H2 and not H(elium),
second the ic-engine is an open-cycle explosion-engine,
most of the power is lost-the reaction is to slowly,
and when you calculate 140KW/s:how compressed
is your "process converter" ? mm^3/cm^3 ?
These 140KW/s are 504MW/h per gram H2 !


S
  dL

140KW if runned for a second is 140KW/s
140KW if runned for an hour is 140KW/h

http://www.webelements.com/webelements/scholar/elements/oxygen/key.html

Helium is still He, Hydrogen is H

Yes ?

[lancaIV]

Hey wyzkycho,
"Yes",He(lium),pardon !
No,H2(ydrogen) !
The specific H2(ydrogen) energy density are 120 MJ/KG,
translated : +/-  33 KWH/Kg !!!
Your numbers are fusion reactor/accelerator numbers:
He(lium)+4Nukleons-process:1Kg H2 Fusion-energy output~ 200MWH ! Technical a "stationary H-Bomb" as reactor,closed-cycle.

140KW/s            X 3600s(=1h) ergo 540MW/h !!!
         per second                                   per hour

140KW/h                                     =0,03KW/s
         per hour                                        per second

S
  dL

[wizkycho]

Hey wyzkycho,
"Yes",He(lium),pardon !
No,H2(ydrogen) !
The specific H2(ydrogen) energy density are 120 MJ/KG,
translated : +/-  33 KWH/Kg !!!
Your numbers are fusion reactor/accelerator numbers:
He(lium)+4Nukleons-process:1Kg H2 Fusion-energy output~ 200MWH !
140KW/s X 3600s(=1h) ergo 540MW/h !!!

S
  dL

120MJ/Kg = 0.120kW/g => 120KW/s (if released in one second)
pretty much the same number that site gave 144KW/g

if I have 1 light lump of 100W and light it on for 1 seccond I have spend 100W/s
if I run it for an hour I have spend 100W/h and not in any way 360kW/h !?!

Your Mega calculations are completely out of any scope.
We all know about fusion and fision and certanly now that we don't wan't it on Earth.
If you are going to speak about F and F please open another topic ?

best regards

Igor Knitel

[lancaIV]

      your maths:   120 MJ/Kg =0,12KW/g     

      my first process step,
      converting:               
                             3,6MJ=1KWH

I can only repeat my opinion:
you exspect to get high energy gains,but you calculate with numbers,only to reach through Fusion-/Fission-reactors ! 
Hydrogen-cells are water-Cracker-/Catalysis-tech,so-from my opinion-
you can only exspect an output max. which is the specific energy density value !!!                        
S
  dL

                       100W/s = 100/3600 WH

                                                           

[lancaIV]

Hello Igor,

an explaination of the different conversion steps:
let me use the 120MJ/Kg Hydrogen energy content (I took this number from the net,in the books there is written:143MJ/Kg !)

                      120MJ/Kg
                     Kg to g(ram)
                    = 120KJ/  g   
                    =33,33WH/g

                    = 120KWs/g :this is what you want  !!!
                       

But one time more: 120KWs/g ~ 432MWp power plant

H2-book number:   143KWs/g ~ 514,8MWp power plant
                     
                      and this is a nice power density,for me !
                         
  I recitate yourself:      "warm as hell"
                               "hoellisch-warm"
         
Sincerely
            de Lanca       

p.s.: I do not know which site you are recitating,related :144KW/g,
       but please look after and compare :143KJ/Kg is 143KWs/Kg !
       Are "they-the site" writing in Kg or g Hydrogen use?