Mostly Permanent Magnet Motor with minimal Input Power

[wattsup]

@gotoluc

First thanks to @powercat for letting me know about this thread.

I saw your video, and son of a gun, I had been looking for a suitable linear motion method for an idea I had been mulling over 2 years now. At the time I made some drawings and an animation that is now located here;

http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups%27%20stuff/linear-wheel/

The gif file is the animation.

The idea is not to use a crank type motion of the linear movement but to simply use the linear movement as a wheel balancing offset.

My only question is, can your idea work standing up. Even as a catapult, can it have enough force to push up that coil. If it can, then there may be a way for it to work, by mounting it a ring that has a center axle that is aligned to the center of your iron bar, and then controlling the pulse to the coil to always keep it on the right side then use gravity as the main force.

Also, think about it. That coil is moving. Put some other coils around it and it will become a generator. Kind of reminds me of @handyguy1's Thingamajigger. Or you can hold the coil steady and let the iron bar with the magnets slide.

Very nice work. Geez now you are on motor type devices. Good progression.

[gotoluc]

Dear Cat and Luc,

Interesting.  We worked with:
1. One coil in the middle repelling two magnets to soft and hard surfaces to achieve unbalanced force in one direction.
2. Two coils with a moving magnet in the middle to achieve unbalanced force in one direction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FafYVGbgULw

Noiw you have the arrangement of:
A Moving Coil in the middle of two magnets.

We shall be working on:
A non-moving coil in the middle of two magnets with a changing magnetic flux to draw out energy.

We already have a prototype demonstrated to over 25,000 visitors in the two Open Shows in Hong Kong.   See the Lee-Tseung Lead-Out Energy theory thread in this forum.

Welcome to the team.  You will have fun and many unexpected experimental results.  Overunity and unbalanced force are two examples.

Hi ltseung888,

so that's what the Lee-Tseung Lead-Out Energy theory thread is. Sorry, I never really looked at it

We shale see where this goes.

Luc

[gotoluc]

@gotoluc

First thanks to @powercat for letting me know about this thread.

I saw your video, and son of a gun, I had been looking for a suitable linear motion method for an idea I had been mulling over 2 years now. At the time I made some drawings and an animation that is now located here;

http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups%27%20stuff/linear-wheel/

The gif file is the animation.

The idea is not to use a crank type motion of the linear movement but to simply use the linear movement as a wheel balancing offset.

My only question is, can your idea work standing up. Even as a catapult, can it have enough force to push up that coil. If it can, then there may be a way for it to work, by mounting it a ring that has a center axle that is aligned to the center of your iron bar, and then controlling the pulse to the coil to always keep it on the right side then use gravity as the main force.

Also, think about it. That coil is moving. Put some other coils around it and it will become a generator. Kind of reminds me of @handyguy1's Thingamajigger. Or you can hold the coil steady and let the iron bar with the magnets slide.

Very nice work. Geez now you are on motor type devices. Good progression.

Hi wattsup,

that's an interesting idea. What would need to be figured out is input power (Watts) for weight lifted. If it gives a better number (compared to what the standard establishment say) then I see no reason why we could not use your system to also capitalize on gravity force.

My interest in motors is for my needs but what ever I find will be Freely shared for the good of all.

Thanks for sharing your idea.

Luc

[gyulasun]

@powercat
thanks for your PM on this thread, in the meantime I also noticed it at the energetic forum where I answered in the meantime too.

@Luc

regarding the vertical arrangement wattsup mentioned, I recall an old patent where a permanent magnet was placed under the core of an electromagnet and this extra flux helped more than double the lifting height against gravity  with the same input current to the electromagnet, see this link and the patent drawing: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1621.msg16347.html#msg16347

rgds, Gyula

[Paul-R]

I wonder if I recognise your coil.

Is it the low current coil on the 8:1 mains power transformer of a microwave oven?
If so, they are available to us all for peanuts - a visit to a recycling centre, and
an amusing evening in front of the TV cutting through the transformer with an angle
grinder (hack saw will do), and soaking the result overnight in water to soften up
the paper/card packing around the coils in order to get them off.